Talk:Shaykh Abdullah al-Harari

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[edit] NPOV

NPOV is obvious. User "Aicp1" (abbreviation for "Association of Islamic Charitable Projects", have a look at al-habash), as a loyal and faithful follower of Shaykh al-Harari, has written an enconium. "He is the great 'alim", "the prious worshipper" "He memorized by heart", "his intelligence and wonderful memory" etc. ... does not look encyclopedic at all. --89.56.175.238 23:10, 28 April 2007 (UTC)

Actually, I didnt make those changes (another user did). Anyhow the article just relays the biography of the Shaykh.

—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Aicp1 7:26, 29 April 2007 (UTC).

I just took your username into account. It seemed obvious, to assume you and 66.240.41.13 to be the same person. Please accept my apology, if I were wrong. But I think your removal of NPOV-message to be revealing. You did not change the article to correct the problem and your argument "just relays the biography" doesn't help, as long as you don't give us any reliable references. --89.56.135.178 15:10, 29 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] This is an advertisement mostly quoting from AICP's own web-sit and sources. It is NOT NPOV

The others editors are right that this IS, in fact, written like an advertisement as well as quoting from AICP's own web-site and other sources. McKhan 13:45, 2 May 2007 (UTC)

What are you talking about? More than half of that information is not even included on AICP's website. Of course some people find it amusing to slander him and AICP although all his books and publications have approval from Al-Azhar. Aicp1

I, exactly, know what I am talking about. This is Wikipedia NOT Al-Azhar. Though, your claim being "approved" by Al-Azhar has been disputed. You have provided NO NEUTRAL / IMPARTIAL / ACADEMIC / INDEPENDENT references, quotes and research, as per Wikipedia guidelines to substantiate your "claims" in that article. Consequently, I will request you to NOT to remove those tags. Thanks. McKhan 13:07, 3 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Please, don't remove the tags. Thanks

Please, don't remove the tags. McKhan 13:01, 2 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Aicp1 took the text from here. = Reverted

Aicp1 has been in the violation of several Wikipedia guidelines (NPOV, Original Research .etc) by literally copying and pasting from here, a web-site managed and owned by one of the AICP's leader in North America, to Wikipedia as his own. McKhan 08:12, 5 May 2007 (UTC)

Your fight against AICP (the organization) is quite entertaining. And also you should know I didnt add all that information to this article, but a user by the name of Mutakalim did. Once again, it shows that you know hardly anything. Anyways, fight your e-battle... if that is what really matters to you. AICP1

I find it sad when someone thinks that other people are stupid. Al-Ahbash's / Habashies's /AICP's headquarter is in Pennsylvania. 66.240.41.13 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · block user · block log) hails from Pennsylvania. And there is highly liklikhood that Mutakallim (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · block user · block log) and 66.240.41.13 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · block user · block log) are the same. Having said that, let's see what Aicp1 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · block user · block log) did. Rather than trying to follow the Wikipedia guidelines, Aicp1 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · block user · block log) helped his comrade,Mutakallim (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · block user · block log) and / or 66.240.41.13 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · block user · block log) from Pennsylvania, in this copy and paste job. Here is the evidence.
And when I pointed out what has been done is in the violation of several Wikipeda guidelines, Aicp1 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · block user · block log) turned around and did what Aicp1 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · block user · block log) has been doing quite consistently to sanatize his group on Wikipedia: delibrately removed the link (s) and content which wasn't pro-AICP from this page AND from Al-Ahbash page. Evidence is here and here. And NO, I am NOT fighting anybody here. This is Wikipedia which aspires to have NPOV and therefore I am just helping Wikipedia NOT to fall prey to anybody's agenda. McKhan 06:31, 6 May 2007 (UTC)