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Contents 1 Carnotaurus? 2 Allosaurus in Saurus Rock? 3 Deleted the Predator List 4 Sharptooth as generic term in first movie 5 Redclaw 6 Um. 7 Sharptooth's "Predatory Prowess" 8 The Original Sharptooth

[edit] Carnotaurus?

Umm... no? I'm pretty damn sure the villain Sharptooth in the fifth movie was *not* a Carnotaurus- it didn't even remotely resemble one. Too big, arms too long, not enough fingers etc. Looks more like an Allosaurus to me. Allosaurus Maximus was almost as big as a T-Rex, so it's feasable.

I'd list the one in The Secret of Saurus Rock as something else. Giganotosaurus, maybe? It had three fingers, but it looked different from the "Allosaurus" in Saurus Rock.

[edit] Allosaurus in Saurus Rock?

That "Allosaurus" looked more like a tyrannosaurid to me (two-fingered hands). Perhaps it is a Tarbosaurus (er, Tyrannosaurus bataar) instead? The antagonistic dinosaur in Mysterious Island looked much more like an Allosaurus to me.

I think it's likely that *both* were meant to be Allosauruses, and that it was more a mistake on part of the animators. The Land Before Time is a series for children, after all- it's most likely that they picked well known, easily recognisable species- open up any kids dinosaur book and T-Rex and Allosaurus are practically guaranteed to be there. Maybe list one as "Allosaurus Maximus" and another as "Allosaurus Fragilis" if we want to be nitpicky. Same genus, but different species, thus explaining why they look different.

Hrm. Though that might come across as "Original Research". Maybe we should omit the predator list entirely? The animators don't really seem to care or keep track.

Or maybe we could joke around and just call 'em all "Megalosaurus". Paleontologists used to arbitrarily list theropods they were unable to identify as Megalosaurus. XD

[edit] Deleted the Predator List

All it seems to amount to is editing wars and quarreling, and it's dangerously close to being original research anyway since there's no real way to conclusively determine what they actually *are*. I suggested previously that we omit that diagram... and I've chosen to do so and instead focus on theropod characters. I think that's more important overall then making a theropod list.

[edit] Sharptooth as generic term in first movie

From the prologue to the first film: "Sharpteeth stalked the herds, waiting to seize any who strayed." I'm not confident of the exact wording, but I know for sure that "Sharpteeth" was used as a term for predators in general. Well, I suppose it could have specifically meant Tyrannosaurs, but the point is that it didn't exclusively refer to Sharptooth the character as the article implies. --Andrusi 17:29, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

I poked my DVD and that is indeed true, though the characters in the film referred to Sharptooth as an indevidual- otherwise Cera saying she saw Sharptooth wouldn't be as big a deal, it could simply have been a different one. (Though Sharptooth's blind eye helps confirm it's the same one throughout the entire film.)K00bine 21:23, 11 October 2006 (UTC)

It could be that Sharpteeth are rarely seen enough that it's reasonable to assume there's only one nearby enough to be worth mentioning. But that's speculation. --Andrusi 23:53, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Redclaw

Should Redclaw, the villain Sharptooth from the animated series, be featured in this article? Or does he warrant his own article?

K00bine 15:48, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Um.

Although they are often perceived as mindless killers, being called "cowards" and "not very bright" by Littlefoot's father and grandfather respectively, despite the fact that by dinosaur standards in real life, Theropods were the smartest of the dinosaurs.

Although they are often perceived as mindless killers, being called "cowards" and "not very bright" by Littlefoot's father and grandfather respectively, although this is quite to the contrary of scientific dinosaur information.

...Okay, do people even READ the article before they make edits to them!? It goes on to say immediately after that statement that the Sharpteeth are smarter than they're given credit by herbivores.

Although they are often perceived as mindless killers, being called "cowards" and "not very bright" by Littlefoot's father and grandfather respectively, The Land Before Time II: The Great Valley Adventure revealed that Sharpteeth are indeed sentient like the rest of the dinosaurs and that they even form loving families. Furthermore, in The Land Before Time V: The Mysterious Island, Sharpteeth are shown to be just as intelligent as other dinosaurs but simply speak a different language consisting of roaring and growling.

The aforementioned edits don't even make sense grammatically and just screw up the rest of the paragraph! *Headdesks*

They are often violently killed in very unrealistic ways. Because Littlefoot and his friends have no chance against the Sharpteeth, fate often kills them or an adult interveins. For this reason, sharpteeth almost always fall over cliffs that did not exist previously in the movie, as the story must continue without Littlefoot and his friends being killed.

Seems pretty darn contradictory to me, Littlefoot and his friends soundly defeated the single most formidable Sharptooth depicted in the series thus far.

K00bine 23:12, 28 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Sharptooth's "Predatory Prowess"

Sharptooth was depicted as a rather unsuccessful hunter: rarely employing the element of surprise and never successful in devouring any of his victioms. However, what he lacked in predatory prowess, he made up for...

M'kay, this statement keeps being put back even though it's complete bullshit.

1. Sharptooth makes very liberal use of stealth- in fact, he used it in two out of the three attacks he launched in the film. He snuck up on Littlefoot et all while they were sleeping, and again manages to sneak up on Ducky in the cave... despite Ducky being the one to sneak up on HIM initially.

2. Predatory incompetance is a common feature to *all* Sharpteeth in TLBT series; name me one time ANY Sharptooth in the series managed to successfully kill something. Why bother to point out Sharptooth's poor track record when this is common to Sharpteeth in general? As it stands, Sharptooth has better luck than his successors, having been able to make at least *one* kill that we've seen onscreen, and it's a major character no less!

Littlefoot and his friends' ability to escape harm would be better attributed to character shielding rather than Sharptooth's so-called incompetance.

K00bine 02:23, 8 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] The Original Sharptooth

Unfortunatley, the sharptooth in the first movie wasn't given a name. This is very much a "hellraiser" problem, where the character is important, but unnamed and is called by a name that is fan made. I propose, to avoid future confusion, we refere to the sharptooth who killed Littlefoot's mother as the Original Sharptooth. I do not wish for this to be a new fan name to be used all the time, but I think that this Sharptooth should be called something, as it is surely, next to Chomper that is, the most notable sharptooth in the Land before Time Series. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bowser Jr. Nutt (talk • contribs) 22:21, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

The Tyrannosaurus Rex in the movie *is* given a canonical name. His name is simply "Sharptooth". The characters routinely refer to him as "Sharptooth", or "The Sharptooth". Sharptooth was given his name before the term was extended to the rest of his species.

It's confusing, yes, but it's all we have to go by.

70.50.178.225 (talk) 12:30, 27 December 2007 (UTC)