Talk:Sharon Maughan

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[edit] Ethnic categories

Hi. I've twice removed Category:People of Irish descent in Great Britain from this article. I did this because there is no mention in the article of her ethnicity. I notice her ethnicity is not mentioned in the external links we have either. Per WP:BLP I believe I am exempt from 3RR on removing the category, but I would much prefer to attain consensus here. As far as I see it, we need verifiable references stating that her ethnicity is significant to her notability. If someone can supply those, we can keep the category. Otherwise it will need to go. Thoughts? --John (talk) 23:27, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

Support removal. In this diff, Tony asks "Surname Maughan, born in Liverpool. What evidence would be required?" ... the answer is, a cite from a reliable source stating they are Irish. That would establish they are Irish. We cannot judge ethnicity based on surname or location, sorry, as that is synthesis. (I can give counters to the argument that a surname tells us what ethnicity someone is, without too much trouble) To actually have that fact in the article, though, in my view anyway, requires some demonstration (again, from a reliable source) that the fact that they are of Irish descent is relevant to their biography. Otherwise it is not, just as their shoe size is not typically relevant and their eye color is not typically relevant, and their hair color is not typically relevant. Further reversions of John's removal, without discussion here first, and consensus developed first, may well draw a block. ++Lar: t/c 00:57, 12 May 2008 (UTC)