Talk:Shapur II
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 |
This article incorporates text from the Encyclopædia Britannica Eleventh Edition, now in the public domain. |
 |
Shapur II is part of WikiProject Iran, which aims to improve Wikipedia's coverage of Iran-related topics. If you would like to participate, you can edit this article, or visit the project page, where you can join the project and see a list of objectives. |
| ??? | This article has not yet been assigned a rating on the Project's quality scale. |
| ??? | This article has not yet been assigned a rating on the Project's importance scale. |
 |
After rating the article, please provide a short summary on the article's ratings summary page to explain your ratings and/or identify the strengths and weaknesses. |
 |
This article is within the scope of WikiProject Biography. For more information, visit the project page. | ||
| Start | This article has been rated as Start-Class on the project's quality scale. [FAQ] | ||
 |
This article is supported by the Politics and government work group. | ||
This says
- When King Hormizd II (302-310)
but Hormizd II of Persia says 302-309. Just noticing this slight inconsistency. Someone might want to correct that. -- Timwi 12:36 27 Jul 2003 (UTC)
- jep, that´s wrong. Shapur II reigned from 309, not 310 (Frye, History of ancient Iran; Camb. History of Iran etc.).
Contents |
[edit] Move this page?
Now Shapur II redirects to Shapur II of Persia. Is there any reason for this? Would not it be better to have the opposite? --Panairjdde 23:00, 1 April 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Dealing with the Huns?
I read somewhere that Shapur II came into contact with the early Huns arriving from Asia? Can anyone confirm this..?
[edit] Jewish Mom?
I never knew this. Where are some references? If this is true, it is ironic considering he persecuted/taxed Christians and Jews.
[edit] Rock sculpture?
This article identifies the individuals represented in a Bishapur rock sculpture of a victorious Persian king as Shapur II (mounted), Jovian (supplicating), and Julian (lying dead). But all the other sources I've found about a very similarly described sculpture at the same location identify the figures as people from the previous century: Shapur I, Philip the Arab, and Gordian III, respectively. They also identify the standing figure in the background as Valerian. (Some debate exists with those who switch the identifications of Philip and Valerian, but that's tangential to the issue I'm raising.) There is at least one other similar sculpture at Naqsh-e-Rustam, but it too is said to represent Shapur I's victory, not Shapur II's. Is there an additional sculpture at Bishapur specifically showing Shapur II over Julian? Or has this article simply misidentified the subjects of a single Bishapur sculpture? (See the Wikipedia article about Shapur I for a reference to a mural of Shapur I's victory at Naqsh-e-Rustam. The Wikipedia article about Naqsh-e-Rustam also refers to a famous Sassanid rock relief at that location of Shapur I's victory over Valerian and Philip the Arab, and it mentions that there is a more elaborate version of this scene at Bishapur.)
[edit] Answer to question about the rock sculpture
There is indeed a rock sculpture representing Shapur II's victory over Julian. However, the one I have now found is different from the one described in the Wikipedia article. It is a bas-relief at Taq-i-Bustan, Iran. According to Adrian Murdoch's The Last Pagan, this sculpture represents Shapur II together with the gods Mithras and Ahura-Mazda. Ahura-Mazda is standing on top of a fallen enemy of Shapur, who is "usually identified as Julian." In this sculpture, all the figures are standing; none is mounted. Interestingly, "[the] fact that it is a god standing over the emperor's head suggests that Julian's death is the result of divine intervention." By the way, the fallen emperor appears to wear a beard, one of Julian's distinguishing features in an era of generally clean-shaven men. This lends support to identifying him as Julian.
[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:Shapur ii bust.jpg
Image:Shapur ii bust.jpg is being used on this article. I notice the image page specifies that the image is being used under fair use but there is no explanation or rationale as to why its use in this Wikipedia article constitutes fair use. In addition to the boilerplate fair use template, you must also write out on the image description page a specific explanation or rationale for why using this image in each article is consistent with fair use.
Please go to the image description page and edit it to include a fair use rationale. Using one of the templates at Wikipedia:Fair use rationale guideline is an easy way to ensure that your image is in compliance with Wikipedia policy, but remember that you must complete the template. Do not simply insert a blank template on an image page.
If there is other fair use media, consider checking that you have specified the fair use rationale on the other images used on this page. Note that any fair use images lacking such an explanation can be deleted one week after being tagged, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. If you have any questions please ask them at the Media copyright questions page. Thank you.
BetacommandBot (talk) 04:48, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
