Talk:Shandy

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Hi. Noted there wasn't a page for Turbo Shandy on Wikipedia so I created one which redirects here. As this article already mentions it I thought it better than creating a new article.

Folks, what about Lime_and_lager? --tickle me 18:08, 25 January 2006 (UTC)

"Weißbier mixed with cola is called a "Neger," the German word for Negro." I think this is not true! A mix of Cola and Beer is called "Diesel" (like the oilstuff) or simply Colabier. I Never heard of a drink called Neger!!!

I agree, I've never heard of a beer in Bavaria called a "Neger." This might be an odd local (or locale) name only. I've always seen a cola and weissbier mix in Bavaria as a Diesel or colabier.

I got the name off a site listing mixed beer drinks. Flieger is said to be used in Rheinland and Neger was said to be used in Bavaria, so I included them for completeness. If I find any other local terms I would include them and quote the locales where it is common. If it is deemed a racist term, then I will remove it. I debate the use of Zima as a "Shandy", since I think it is inappropriate, and there are no beverages listed as examples of malt beverage shandys. Hotspur.

  • I always thought the German word for a black person was schwartzer. Not that that I'm a German language expert...

I'm a bit ambivilent about Zima being classified as a shandy, but it's an example of a flavored beer-based beverage, which is, in a broad sense, what a shandy is. It's not actually identified as a shandy, per se, in the article, merely as an example of a flavored beer sold in the USA.

I don't think that simply being a racist term should cause "neger' to be removed, if indeed it is a term for a type of shandy, but if it IS offensive, it should be noted as such. Tubezone 05:13, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

  • Why would "neger" be a racist term? Negro is not racist in English, is it? Mikebe 13:21, 7 September 2006 (UTC)
Well, the word negro really isn't used much in US English anymore to refer to black folks. Whether neger is offensive is a good question, I guess it depends on how the word is used in German. neger does translate to negro, but is sounds like a far worse English language word! IOW, perhaps a false cognate?? Tubezone 23:53, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

I've heard it called a "lady's beer," but I don't know if it's well-known enough to put on the page. Graymornings 02:35, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

My memory of a shandy ordered in an English pub was that it was always a beer/ginger beer mix. Then suddenly ginger beer disappeared from the shelves, and Seven-up was offered instead. The postwar American influence. Perhaps that was where the appellation "lady's beer" came from. JohnClarknew (talk) 03:30, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

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BetacommandBot (talk) 05:10, 18 February 2008 (UTC)