Talk:Shakopee, Minnesota

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[edit] Template for a U.S. City

For those who plan on editing and expanding this article, please follow the Template for a U.S. City. Thanks!--Daveswagon 09:47, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Neutrality

User:Sbrockway added that the statement about Kline is not WP:NPOV. I disagree; several groups regularly research members of Congress' votes and rate them on liberal/conservative scales. The two cited looked at the same data from two different perspectives and have reached essentially the same conclusion. He ranks 100% conservative and 2.8% progressive. I don't know of anyone who would substantially disagree with the conclusion of these two research groups, but is some other research outfit did, I wouldn't object to evaluating the neutrality of the dissenting view vs. the two currently cited. I think attempts to remove the ratings may be perpetrated by someone pushing a political agenda via obscuring how a particular politician actually votes. The encyclopedia should be a compilation of research by others with relentless sourcing and citations to arrive at the truth.--Appraiser 16:30, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

I do not dispute the facts that you've stated and my intention is not to obscure how John Kline votes. My concern is around the Bias clause of the definition of the Wikipedia neutral point of view policy. I noticed that you posted the identical statement to the city pages for Prior Lake, Minnesota and Savage, Minnesota after having posted a similar statement to John Kline's article.
Why restate the fact on the city's articles when it is available (via link) 32 lines into Kline's? This information seems out of scope for a city article. I think that stating these facts on Kline's site is appropriate but that echoing them on the city articles may be construed as an campaigning effort to sway votership. Lets leave the political battles on the candidate's articles. --Sean 06:06, 5 May 2007 (UTC)
  • If you look at city articles that have achieved WP:Featured Article status, such as Ann Arbor, Seattle, and Cleveland they have sections on politics with enough information to give the reader a general idea of where the cities reside on the political spectrum. Potential readers of these articles are residents, those considering relocating there, businesses, non-profit groups, advertisers, etc. Someone unfamiliar with the local area might be be looking at Shakopee, Brooklyn Park, and St. Paul for example, and not realize that the areas vary greatly from conservative to moderate to liberal. Although these are not geographically far apart, politically they run the gamut. I have added similar statements to many city articles I've worked on, whether liberal, conservative, or something in between. Currently the cities in Keith Ellison's and Michele Bachmann's districts do not have statements such as these, because the rating organizations haven't put out numbers yet, but I will be just as inclined to describe those political areas too, when the numbers are available from multiple sources. I don't think a statement violates WP:NPOV if multiple people doing research come to the same conclusion, and if various conclusions are stated in an even-handed way.
  • Unfortunately many citizens don't even know who their member of congress is, and many of them don't really know much about their member's voting record. If Wikipedia can disseminate even a little information in a balanced way to someone less than fully informed, we are doing a service.--Appraiser 19:14, 7 May 2007 (UTC)


You make a good argument. Lets get one or two other people to weigh in, or if no one does with-in 2 weeks, I'll retract the NPOV. --Sean 00:47, 9 May 2007 (UTC)
Retracted NPOV --SB 03:55, 16 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Mentioned in Cars

Van and Minnie get lost in Radiator Springs, Arizona. Their dialouge is as follows:
Van: I don’t need directions, Minny, I know exactly where we’re going.
Minnie: (to Sally Carrera) He did the same thing on our trip to Shakopee. We were headed up there for the crazy days, and...
Van: Okay, really we’re just peachy.
-dogman15 21:00, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Schools

Are there now two senior high schools? What's the new one called?--Appraiser 12:59, 20 August 2007 (UTC)