Talk:Shahrbanu

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The person who wrote this page should objectively explain that this is a Shia myth and no a factual description. The way the caliph Omar is depicted in this narration matches typically the opinion of the Shia on this personnage. I would appreciate more distance and objectivity.

1. That is why the sources of the info used to write the passage were given, so that people can check the factuality of the passage by referring to the sources.
2. Shahr-Banu has no significance from a Sunni perspective. She is not an important figure to them.
3. I added a comment to reflect this. (That the recount is from a Shia perspective).--Zereshk 22:28, 19 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Contents 1 Myth 2 Yes, merge 3 Agree 4 Please Remove the "Islam" toolbar from this page 5 Move and revision

[edit] Myth

This is a laugh. How would Ali understand Persian anyway?!! To stop Omar from killing this woman. This article clearly shows how Persians feel towards Omar. I wouldnt believe a single letter from this article.

I think It would be best to place it under the fantasy section, not the Islamic.

[edit] Yes, merge

Though I think the English form most seen is Shahrbanu, all one word. That's the form in which I see it as a woman's name. Suggest both articles be moved to Shahrbanu. The material I gave, re the academic view of this as legend, should be given as well. I'm willing to have the Shi'a POV there -- most mentions of Shahrbanu would be incomprehensible if you didn't know the story. But it should not be presented as fact. Zora 23:22, 7 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Agree

I told wikipedia to merge these two articles (Shahr banu and Shahrbanu binte Yazdgerd III) because I didn’t like having two articles for Bibi Shahrbanu and why wikipedians should talk about the same thing on two different pages. We should all contribute to one page and share our ideas about what we think and believe about Bibi Shahrbanu. I apologize because I wrote the article (Shahrbanu binte Yazdgerd III) about Bibi Shahrbanu on wikipedia because I thought wikipedia didn’t have any article about the wife of my 3rd Imam and the mother of my 4th Imam. I even searched on wikipedia before actually writing the article but I couldn’t find an article on her because her name was misspelled. So when I came across the other article (Shahr Banu) that as written on Bibi Shahrbanu, I told Wikipedia to merge them because I didn’t like the fact that wikipedians were writing about the same person on two different pages. So I say merge! Thank You Salman

Then merge it is.--Zereshk 15:02, 9 May 2006 (UTC)

I would like to change the name of the article to Shahrbanu. Google has 1120 hits for Shahrbanu and 681 hits for Shahr Banu. That's 61% for Shahrbanu and 39% for Shahr Banu. Shahrbanu is clearly more often used in English. We can set up a redirect so that anyone looking for Shahr Banu will be sent to Shahrbanu. Zora 02:47, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Please Remove the "Islam" toolbar from this page

Hi,

This character has no affliation to Islam. She was merely a royal princess, who was sent as war booty to medina, and made a concubine to Hussein, she wasnt even a muslim, and after bearing Hussiens child, Abdallah, she left and lived in Rey, Persia until she died. She never was a muslim.

[edit] Move and revision

I moved everything to Shahrbanu, as I put up a notice and no one objected. If I google Shahrbanu and Shahr Banu, Sharbanu gets twice as many Google hits.

I also rewrote the article to include the academic POV and rewrote the Shi'a section slightly for style and flow.

Per the objection of the anon, I removed the Islam template. It would be a good idea to have a Twelver or Shi'a template to put on articles such as this. Zora 21:37, 13 May 2006 (UTC)