Talk:Shah Alam
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Can someone help identify the remaining sections in the city sections map. I couldn't get enough info to finish the SVG image. thanks --Bukhrin (talk) 14:19, 2 May 2008 (UTC)
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i want to know more a bout shah alam ...section 2..?
1. - I'm referring to the section pertaining to the Shah Alam mosque with noticeable use of weasel words.
'...It is the largest mosque in ......and considered as one of the Southeast Asia's largest mosque.' I believe that the contributor should state the source of this observation together with references to other mosques of similar stature.
Also, why are the minarets disputably among the tallest in the world as stated in the article? Tallest in the world compared to which mosque(s)? And why is it disputed in accordance to which source of research? I suggest that it is useful to cite examples of other tall minarets in the world to back up the claim and compare rather than adopting what could potentially be a weasel word.
Another phrase '...The presence of the mosque and a large Muslim population has given the city a 'Muslim-city' image. There are no bars, clubs or other institutions that open late into the night and permits to serve alcohol in eateries are almost impossible to get from the City Council.' Again, I call upon the contributor to back up his/her claims. I reckon that this is a deviation from a NPOV article. I suppose it is fair if the author explains what can be meant by the term 'Muslim-city' and how does one readily identify such a city where encountered so as not to lead to a wrong assumption of such a term.
2.- The phrase '...Shah Alam has a notably lower crime rate compared to neighbouring areas such as Klang and Petaling Jaya, probably because its residents are mostly from middle and higher socio-economic classes (notably in the areas around the city centre) as well as it being an area where many members of the state royal family reside (there are two large palaces in the city).' is also without a proper citation or reference. It is not to be presumed that just because a city is composed primarily of the well-to-do classes means that it would be immediately borne in mind that such a city would have a lower crime rate than most other cities of a wider social strata. Again, please back up these claims by use of crime rate data obtained from the local police or relevant authorities. - 218.208.237.114 13:55, 10 May 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Regarding the Blue Mosque's Dome and Minarets
'...It is the largest mosque in ......and considered as one of the Southeast Asia's largest mosque.' I believe that the contributor should state the source of this observation together with references to other mosques of similar stature.
I am not the original contributor, but I can say that the source of this observation is from a sign engraved on red granite on the grounds of the Blue Mosque. The sign, written in both Bahasa Melayu and English, has a brief history of the mosque and a description of the four minarets' height and the height and width of the dome. I was at this mosque a little over two weeks ago (as I write this), and personally took a photograph of the red granite sign in question.
Also, why are the minarets disputably among the tallest in the world as stated in the article? Tallest in the world compared to which mosque(s)? And why is it disputed in accordance to which source of research? I suggest that it is useful to cite examples of other tall minarets in the world to back up the claim and compare rather than adopting what could potentially be a weasel word.
Again, this claim is per the red granite sign at the mosque. Actually, according to the sign, the minarets are not "among the tallest in the world," they are the tallest in the world. Whether this claim is still true, I couldn't say. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dunner99 (talk • contribs) 15:24, 21 June 2006
