Wikipedia:SGpedians' notice board/Meetup/Planning

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Welcome to the talk page of the proposed Singapore meetup. Please feel free to leave comments and discuss about the meetup. ;)

Contents 1 Meetup? 2 Number of people 3 Angela's thinking... 4 Hey! A meetup! 5 Proposed itinerary 6 Jimbo might not make it 7 Planning 8 Lunch and dinner 9 What if it rains? 10 Where is Little India MRT Station? 11 How will we recognise each other? 12 Proposed itinerary 13 Itinerary 13.1 Confirmed itinerary 13.2 Plan B 13.3 Plan C 13.4 Plan D

[edit] Meetup?

I know it is too early to talk about it now, as school has just started for most of us. Is anyone interested in a March holiday meetup? Suggestions please? Thank you. --Terence Ong ^Talk 10:36, 8 January 2006 (UTC)

Can't do it for a while. Elle vécut heureusement _{toujours dorénavant} (Be eudaimonic!) 08:15, 9 January 2006 (UTC)

March wouldn't be a great a time, perhaps June; school just started for tiertiary students. Slivester 06:52, 13 January 2006 (UTC)

I'm going to suggest July 22 (Saturday), because Jimbo will be in town! NSLE _(T+C) 07:43, 4 February 2006 (UTC)

NSLE       oh, jwales, we're thinking of an SGpedian meetup, so if you're coming any
time this year let us know

jwales  NSLE: July 20-21

jwales  NSLE: i'll stay more days than that

Great! How about bringing Jimbo to Jumbo Seafood to try the Jumbo Sri Lankan Crab? --Vsion (talk) 09:25, 4 February 2006 (UTC)

Haha...but July is sooooo long from now...--Huaiwei 12:15, 4 February 2006 (UTC)

I no money leh. Haha --Terence Ong (恭喜发财) 02:47, 5 February 2006 (UTC)

Hmmh? I tot it's Jimbo's treat, ... not meh? --Vsion (talk) 07:37, 5 February 2006 (UTC)

lol! Anyway I would love for an earlier meet amongst some of us first lah. Dont want any embarrasing moments infront of a visitor. :D--Huaiwei 13:22, 5 February 2006 (UTC)

Good idea, maybe where we can have a drink or something. Casual one lah. Dunno whether Jimbo paying or not. I hope we can get at least 15. Maybe gettng Angela to come may be easier. Maybe we should bring Jimbo to a hawker centre, seafood looks too common. :D --Terence Ong (恭喜发财) 14:42, 5 February 2006 (UTC)

Note: This was originally discuss at at the main notice board talk page.

Maybe a hawker centre?Tan DX 09:57, 7 February 2006 (UTC)

The only problem is there are so many around, so pls suggest some! :D--Huaiwei 20:14, 7 February 2006 (UTC)

Jimbo, paying for us?Cannot be... Tan DX 09:31, 8 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Number of people

We already have six SGpedians' having interest in the meetup, I think we can go ahead. Please choose a date for the meetup. Thanks. --Terence Ong 08:40, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

Two meetups?Not sure though.Will see.Most likely not going.:(--Tan DX 09:32, 15 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Angela's thinking...

Angela...she said this...

[18:42] <Tan_Ding_Xiang> Greetings, Angela 
[18:42] <Tan_Ding_Xiang> I'm Wikipedia user Tdxiang 
[18:42] <Angela> hello 
[18:42] <Tan_Ding_Xiang> now you see, there's going to be a meetup in Singapore 
[18:43] <Tan_Ding_Xiang> Jimmy Wales happensto be coming
[18:43] <Tan_Ding_Xiang> It's in July 20-21 
[18:43] <Tan_Ding_Xiang> That's what he said 
[18:43] <Tan_Ding_Xiang> We SGPedians would like to know if you're interested 
[18:44] <Angela> I'd love to be there, but I don't know how I'd pay for it 
[18:44] <Angela> sorry, I have to go now. Maybe we can chat about it later? 
[18:44] <Tan_Ding_Xiang> sure 
[18:44] <Tan_Ding_Xiang> btw i'm User:tdxiang on Wikipedia 
[18:45] <Tan_Ding_Xiang> Thanks! 

Tan DX 10:49, 15 February 2006 (UTC)

Hi. I don't think I could come to Singapore in July, but it's possible I will be there in mid-June. This is very tentative for now, but I should know more in a week, so perhaps having an earlier meetup before the July one would be possible? Angela. 11:57, 15 February 2006 (UTC)

Finally confirmed - I will be at a conference in Singapore 21-22 June. The conference ends at 6pm on the 22nd, so perhaps a meetup could be held that evening? Angela. 01:43, 24 March 2006 (UTC)

I'm not sure yet as its a long way to go. I will confirm it on May 25 again. Evening should be ok. --Terence Ong 04:20, 14 April 2006 (UTC)

The 23rd would be better since I don't know whether I'm expected to do anything the evening of the 22nd when the conference ends. I have all day Friday free and leave that night, so something in the afternoon would be ideal. Angela. 19:11, 12 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Hey! A meetup!

Well I missed the Seattle Meetup. Shouldn't have. I got a bit too pissed. So you guys are having one (or two) in July? Well I might be going on a trip during summer break to China as part of a proselytic mission and a pilgrimage to all the various war museums, memorials and battle sites :) I'll see if I'm going and then if I can squeeze some time to come to Singapore for the Meetup, and to liberate my cache of savings, books, paraphenalia and video games :D That is, if Führer Lee isn't gonna lock me up for skipping NS. I don't want to spend 3 years in jail just to attend a Wiki Meetup. :p Got any good lawyer here willing to defend me if I do go to the Meetup? :D Yeah and money might be a problem. Donations? :D

-- Миборовский ^{U|T|C|M|E|Chugoku Banzai!} 10:01, 23 February 2006 (UTC)

It's three years plus you still have to do your NS term, I believe :P Try to come down for it though. NSLE _(T+C) at 01:04 UTC (2006-02-24)

Got a lawyer or not... Don't wanna take chances you know... :D -- Миборовский ^{U|T|C|M|E|Chugoku Banzai!} 23:24, 24 February 2006 (UTC)

After three years, isn't it considered as NS ( +reservist ) served? I'm quite sure this is the case for Jehovah's Witnesses, and have always assumed that it applies to the rest. On the other hand, for awolee and drug-related cases, the Detention period is not included in the 2 years liability, i think? We need clarification about this for National Service in Singapore article. --Vsion 02:18, 3 March 2006 (UTC)

I'm a conscientious (and cowardly :D) objector. I'm not going to the army... ever. Even got a letter from West Point, but no, I'm not joining the army. I'm gonna have to renounce my legal status in SG I guess. But then I won't be able to get a visa. :x -- Миборовский ^{U|T|C|M|E|Chugoku Banzai!} 16:39, 8 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Proposed itinerary

I propose that we bring Jimbo and Angela to the following places if time permits:

1. Pulau Ubin or Changi Village for food
2. Macritchie Reservoir
3. Labrador Park
4. old Ford motor factory
5. National Library
6. Sungei Buloh nature reserve
7. Bukit Timah nature reserve
8. Suntec City
9. Sentosa

Also, we should give them each a welcome gift. Any suggestions? — Kimchi.sg | Talk 13:04, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

My modified itinerary:

Angela

1. Raffles City
2. Raffles Hotel
3. Suntec City
4. Sentosa
5. Merlion Park
6. National Library, Singapore
7. Orchard Road (shopping)
8. Mount Faber
9. Bukit Timah Nature Reserve
10. Toa Payoh or any housing estate
11. A city tour lol (who has a car?)
12. Civic District tour

Jimbo

1. A city tour
2. Raffles City
3. Raffles Hotel
4. Suntec City
5. Sentosa
6. Merlion Park
7. National Library, Singapore
8. Orchard Road (to buy souveneirs)
9. Mount Faber
10. Bukit Timah Nature Reserve
11. Toa Payoh or any housing estate
12. Old Ford Motor Factory
13. Civic Distric tour

• A dim sum lunch for her. I definitely support a welcome gift for both. Angela is coming on June 22 or June 23 and Jimbo on July 21 or 22. --Terence Ong 14:21, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

Endorse your suggestion. It's more "balanced" than mine.

As for the welcome gift... what'd it be? Anyone? If you ask me, I'd resort to something cheap like a fountain pen. We're all on shoestring budgets after all. :-( :-( Kimchi.sg 03:09, 13 May 2006 (UTC)

Please don't worry about getting a gift for me. It's not necessary. I'll be happy enough if some people show up for the meetup. :) Angela. 13:20, 13 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Jimbo might not make it

I've just spoken to jimbo, and he says he doesn't have a hard invite for "the July thing". As such he may not make it down here. NSLE _(T+C) at 02:12 UTC (2006-04-26)

Where? On IRC? Oh dear. Hope he CAN come...anyway, we know Angela IS coming for sure. :)-- 陈鼎翔 贡献 Chat with Tdxiang on IRC! 09:14, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Planning

Very few have selected the time, where to dine, what to do for the meetup. If this is the case, I have nothing to say. Does it mean we are doing last minute planning? --Terence Ong _{(Chat | Contribs)} 16:28, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

NO. Let's do it by 16 June 2006 by 24 UTC.-- 陈鼎翔 贡献 和 CCD 維基和平 Chat with Tdxiang on IRC! 06:59, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Lunch and dinner

I asked Angela over IRC and she was not very keen of Indian food, I plan to choose somewhere else. Any suggestions? --Terence Ong _{(Chat | Contribs)} 07:26, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

I don't think dinner should be included, because we don't know what time our "tour" will end.-- 陈鼎翔 贡献 和 CCD 維基和平 Chat with Tdxiang on IRC! 03:59, 17 June 2006 (UTC)

[12:00] <Tan_Ding_Xiang> hello Angela 
[12:00] <Tan_Ding_Xiang> do you mind if we disclude dinner for the meetup? 
[12:00] <Angela> hi 
[12:00] <Tan_Ding_Xiang> because we don't know what time our "tour" will end 
[12:01] <Angela> that's fine 
[12:01] <Tan_Ding_Xiang> okay   

So we should disclude dinner...okay.-- 陈鼎翔 贡献 ^{和 CCD} Chat with Tdxiang on IRC! 04:05, 17 June 2006 (UTC)

Listen up! By Tuesday, 20 June 2006, 17.00 SGT, I shall book the tables for lunch. All late applications will be forfeited. That's all I have to say.

-- 陈鼎翔 贡献 ^{和 CCD} Chat with Tdxiang on IRC! 04:10, 17 June 2006 (UTC)

Well, include dinner is for social purposes, don't disclude it. I repeat DON'T DISCLUDE IT. The tour can be finished before dark, so leave dinner, we can't let Angela leave Singapore on an empty stomach. --Terence Ong _{(Chat | Contribs)} 05:14, 17 June 2006 (UTC)

Then where do we have dinner?-- 陈鼎翔 贡献 ^{和 CCD} Chat with Tdxiang on IRC! 05:19, 17 June 2006 (UTC)

What time will lunch be? kmccoy (talk) 06:18, 17 June 2006 (UTC)

Lunch is at 1200PM SGT, at The Banana Leaf Apollo, 56 Race Course Road.See Map for location. Thanks.-- 陈鼎翔 贡献 ^{和 CCD} Chat with Tdxiang on IRC! 10:08, 17 June 2006 (UTC)

Perfect, thanks. See you there. I need to be back at Downtown East (Pasir Ris MRT stop) by 1400, so I should probably leave lunch around 1300.  :) kmccoy (talk) 11:16, 17 June 2006 (UTC)

What does "disclude" mean? There's no such word.

Also, this choice of lunch venue will allow us to tie down our meeting venue more conveniently. I'd propose we meet at Little India station, which is very near The Banana Leaf, at 11.30, giving late-comers a little time. Is that okay with everyone?

As for dinner, I say there is a fair chance we won't be able to finish our tour by evening, so if Angela does not mind not eating with us, it should be fine not to have dinner.

Lastly, how much will the lunch cost, Ding Xiang? Kimchi.sg 12:51, 17 June 2006 (UTC)

I believe around S$20 - 30 per pax, may be cheaper if you don't order expensive items or a lot. I was liked puzzled by the word "disclude", was it coined or something? The sad thing is we won't get to sit on Duck Tours or Hippo Tours as it costs SGD33 due to financial reasons. If Sentosa is too boring, we may go to other places. Underwater World and Dolphin Lagoon costs SGD19.50, hope its not too pricey. Sentosa admission fee SGD 2, bus SGD 1, Carlsberg Sky Tower SGD10.90. If this is not a financial problem, everything shall go as planned. Tourism alone can cost a bomb i.e. SGD50, food SGD 30. I believe it can be SGD 20 or 15 even. We may all go broke by the end of the day. --Terence Ong _{(Chat | Contribs)} 14:34, 17 June 2006 (UTC)

If it's that expensive, I'm afraid I won't be able to join you guys after lunch. Is it possible to keep the cost for the whole day down to $20 per pax? Kimchi.sg 16:01, 17 June 2006 (UTC)

I realise the meeting place is confirmed already, and I have no objections to it. But how about the meeting time? I propose we meet at 11.15, giving late-comers some time. Kimchi.sg 16:01, 17 June 2006 (UTC)

Should we change it to Komala Villa's then? I think it can go down to at least 10/day, if you order the not so expensive stuff. --Terence Ong _{(Chat | Contribs)} 03:38, 18 June 2006 (UTC)

I have cut the budget down already, only the lunch is slightly pricey, no paid attractions, unless you guys want to enter the museums which is SGD 3. Terence Ong _{(Chat | Contribs)} 04:01, 18 June 2006 (UTC)

(resetting indent) Please confirm with Ding Xiang if he knows where you want to change it to. We don't want him to book the tables only to find that we've a last-minute change of plans. Kimchi.sg 08:47, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

I was checking my restaurant guide and it say the prices range from under SGD20/pax to around SGD40/pax, I believe its more on the dishes you order than the item. --Terence Ong _{(Chat | Contribs)} 09:04, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

OK, Ding Xiang announced that he has booked the seats at The Banana Leaf, so I think changing the venue will be moot now. Kimchi.sg 10:23, 21 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] What if it rains?

I believe it's the dry season right now. Even so, once in a while there may be a downpour, so it is important for us to have a wet weather plan if it rains. I see we have 3 plans, so why not take 1 of them and convert it into a wet weather plan? (I.e, no outdoor walking, all travelling between destinations by either bus or MRT only, destinations must be sheltered). Kimchi.sg 16:09, 17 June 2006 (UTC)

Go ahead, its a Wiki, come on, propose a new plan, be bold! I just really pray it will not rain and we will have a nice hot and sunny weather. --Terence Ong _{(Chat | Contribs)} 16:21, 17 June 2006 (UTC)

This is the dry season?! kmccoy (talk) 01:55, 18 June 2006 (UTC)

It's supposed to be, but it's been raining quite frequently recently. NSLE 01:57, 18 June 2006 (UTC)

Today has been quite dry, and the NEA's outlook is... darn, their server seems to be down. But personally I think it will be no different. It has been hot and dry all day for the past 3 days. Kimchi.sg 13:44, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Where is Little India MRT Station?

Is Little India MRT Station near Swissôtel or should I get a cab? Your answer should take into consideration the fact that I can't read maps and get lost very easily. :) Angela. 13:12, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

Taking a cab would be good, though you can take the MRT from City Hall to Dhoby Ghaut and change to North East Line to Punggol and stop at Little India MRT Station. --Terence Ong _{(Chat | Contribs)} 13:18, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

If you need to get there in a hurry, the route by taxi is: flag the taxi at Stamford Road, tell the driver to go straight down Stamford Road, turn right into Prinsep Street, go straight down Selegie Road, then finally, turn left at the junction of Selegie Road and Bukit Timah Road. The station's entrance is not far down Bukit Timah Road. Kimchi.sg 13:27, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] How will we recognise each other?

Question as above. I will be emailing everyone who is on the list and has email, asking for their mobile phone (handphone/cellular phone) numbers. Angela, please email me if you have your mobile phone working in Singapore. In return, I will be announcing my number in the email, not here for privacy reasons. :) Kimchi.sg 13:22, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

Well, there's pics of Angela around on Wiki, and you've met Terence before, and I've met him before, so the only problem would be the others. :P NSLE 13:28, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

I don't have a mobile phone. I'll probably wear a Wikipedia T-shirt so you can spot me easily enough. Angela. 13:45, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

The concourse is where the "passenger service centre" is. It's not near the Bukit Timah Road entrance, so do follow the signs. ^_^ Kimchi.sg 13:50, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

Tdxiang!

This is me!-- 陈鼎翔 贡献 ^{和 CCD} Chat with Tdxiang on IRC! 13:48, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

Okay, now you know how Tdxiang looks like, okay? See you.-- 陈鼎翔 贡献 ^{和 CCD} Chat with Tdxiang on IRC! 13:49, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

I have Mailer diablo's handphone number. That still leaves ZhongHan, Kmccoy and Goh wz. Although it's a bit late now, I'll go ahead and email them. Kimchi.sg 13:54, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

Come to think of it, I'll expose my phone number so that the rest of you can keep your hidden. I've emailed my handphone number to everyone not in my handphone's contacts list (Angela, NSLE, Tdxiang, ZhongHan, and Kmccoy). Even if you don't have a mobile phone, you can still call from a public telephone. Kimchi.sg 14:07, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Proposed itinerary

[edit] Itinerary

This is the proposed itinerary for the meetup. Subject to changes and feel free to modify them. Most of the attractions listed here are free, unless we go into the museums.

If time permits, then a few of these places shall be included:

1. Bukit Timah Nature Reserve
2. Clarke Quay
3. DHL Balloon
4. Kampong Glam
5. Mount Faber
6. Old Thong Chai Medical Institution
7. Subordinate Courts
8. Sim Lim Square
9. Tan Si Chong Su

[edit] Plan B

1. Little India MRT Station (concourse)
2. Lunch at The Banana Leaf Apollo, 56 Race Course Road. By Tuesday, 20 June 2006, 17.00 SGT, Tdxiang shall book the tables for lunch. All late applications will be forfeited.
3. Orchard Road
4. Raffles Hotel
5. National Library, Singapore
6. Saint Joseph's Church (brief)
7. Bugis Street
8. Cathedral of the Good Shepherd
9. Old Hill Street Police Station
10. Funan DigitaLife Mall
11. The Arts House at the Old Parliament
12. ACM, Empress Place
13. Victoria Theatre and Concert Hall
14. Raffles Landing Site
15. Sentosa
    1. Underwater World
    2. Carlsberg Sky Tower
    3. Fort Siloso
16. Chinatown tour
17. Raffles Place
18. Merlion
19. Esplanade - Theatres on the Bay
20. Suntec City
21. Mealtime (if possible)

[edit] Plan C

1. 1. Little India MRT Station (concourse)
2. Lunch at The Banana Leaf Apollo, 56 Race Course Road. By Tuesday, 20 June 2006, 17.00 SGT, Tdxiang shall book the tables for lunch. All late applications will be forfeited.
3. Little India
   1. Mustafa Centre
4. Orchard Road
5. National Library, Singapore
6. Saint Joseph's Church
7. Cathedral of the Good Shepherd
8. CHIJMES
9. Central Fire Station
10. Old Hill Street Police Station
11. Clarke Quay
12. Subordinate Courts (brief)
13. Chinatown
    1. People's Park
    2. Masjid Jamae
    3. Sri Mariamman Temple
    4. Tanjong Pagar
    5. Thian Hock Keng
    6. Masjid Al-Abrar
14. Raffles Place
15. Merlion
16. Boat Quay
17. Cross using Cavenagh Bridge
18. Civic District Walk
    1. Raffles Landing Site
    2. The Arts House (brief)
    3. ACM, Empress Place (brief)
    4. Victoria Theatre and Concert Hall
    5. Passing by Old Supreme Court Building and City Hall
    6. Padang, Singapore
    7. Esplanade Park
19. Esplanade - Theatres on the Bay
20. Suntec City