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[edit] The names of the new municipalities as of January 1, 2007

I am writing this in the hope of avoiding extra work due to inconsistency of names for the new municipalities as of January 1, 2007.

During the past few months I have been working on articles about Danish municipalities. My hope has been to standardize them, improve them, and get them ready for the large municipality reform of 2007. In this regards I have:

  1. Standardised all existing articles at Category:Municipalities of Denmark
  2. Written article didn't exist yet for currently exiting municipalities, per the list on the discussion page at the above category
  3. Written articles for all future municipalities of Denmark

I believe these tasks have been completed, although I am still verifying.

Along the way there arose many issues, among them the question of how to handle existing muncipalities that will be enlarged as of January 1, 2007, for example what should be the name of the enlarged municipalities? In other words, if the "old" municipality was called "XXX municipality" does it become "New XXX municipality" after the reform (merge) takes place. Many municipality website use this "New XXX municipality" form, however Indenrigs- og Sundhedsministeriet (Ministry of the Interior and Health) that has the official word on this subject does not, as per their official Danish-language list.

I became convinced that we should use the official name, and no other, in the form of "XXX municipality". I have, therefore, included the following standard text block on articles for existing municipalities that will be enlarged. This text can easily be edited after the reform to keep it current.

Before January 1, 2007 it would read as follows:

By January 1, 2007 "XXX" municipality will, as the result of Kommunalreformen ("The Municipality Reform" of 2007), be merged with existing "YYY"" and "ZZZ" municipalities to form an enlarged "XXX municipality". This will create a municipality with an area of 642 km² and a total population of 63,799 (2005). The municipality will belong to the new "AAA Region Nordjylland" ("North Jutland Region").

AfterJanuary 1, 2007 it would read as follows:

As of January 1, 2007 "XXX" municipality was, as the result of Kommunalreformen ("The Municipality Reform" of 2007), merged with existing "YYY"" and "ZZZ" municipalities to form an enlarged "XXX municipality". This created a municipality with an area of 642 km² and a total population of 63,799 (2005). The municipality belongs to the new "AAA Region Nordjylland" ("North Jutland Region").

This would result in a history of the changes to the municipality's borders, similar to how some municipalities were enlarge in 1971 (see for example Blaabjerg municipality's article).

Those municipalities that will be merged into others by 2007, and would therefore cease to exist, can simply be recategorised as Former municipalities of Denmark.

I move the following from my discussion page as I believe it is relevant here:

Hej Sfdan,

Yes, it's all to easy to make typos. As you no doubt already knows, the problem was that the Ministry of the Interior preferred the new municipalities to be named after the largest town (read: the new municipalities should, if possible, use an existing name.) So in order to distinguish between e.g. the "old" Thisted municipality and the "new" municipality, we sometimes use the prefix "Ny ..." / "New ..." when speaking about the future municipalities. But these names are quickly disappearing again. I'm not the only one who prefers to speak about "den nye Kerteminde Kommune" rather that "Ny Kerteminde Kommune" which just sounds horrible. Besides, the names with the prefix were only intended to be used until the local politicians had time to settle the issue.


Take my native Funen County as an example, out of our ten new municipalities, we could actually add "New" in front of six of them (Kerteminde, Nyborg, Svendborg, Assens, Middelfart, and Bogense.) That'd never work.

But I know that quite a few maps exist using some (or all) of the temporary names. The Danish wikipedia no doubt still has articles using them. I think it'd be better if we ignore the prefix rather than make separate article on both e.g. Nyborg municipality and Ny Nyborg municipality (since one of the articles will eventually be merged with the other.) In this case, I'd prefer simply to add a line to the "Nyborg municipality" article; something like "On 1 January 2007, Nyborg municipality will be merged with the municipalities of Ullerslev and Ørbæk." and perhaps add a table showing the size and population of the "old" municipalities.

The official position seems pretty clear, as the Ministry of the Interior doesn't use the prefix (see e.g. [1] This page has links to both a map and a list of the new municipalities so you might find that useful.

PS: If you were surprised that I wrote "Kerteminde Kommune" rather than "Kerteminde kommune", well, I just prefer the old spelling (so does the Ministry btw.). [2]

Happy editing. --Valentinian 16:25, 24 August 2005 (UTC)

--SFDan 09:45, 31 October 2005 (UTC)

 It has been suggested that Frederikshavn (2007-) be merged into this page or section. (Discuss)

Revert: There is no such thing as a Frederikshavn (2007-) municipality, other minor

[edit] Merge

See discussion about using official municipality names at Talk:Municipalities of Denmark. I beleive stongly that the information in this article should be merged into the Frederikshavn article, and that this article either should be deleted or used as a redirect.

[edit] No reason for this article

There is no reason for this article. It covers exactly the same subject matter as the Frederikshavn article. I already explained on October 11, 2005 to the user who set up this article that the municipality name will not change after the Kommunalreformen ("The Municipality Reform" of 2007). Please see additionally the discussion about using official municipality names at Talk:Municipalities of Denmark.

Before requesting that this article is deleted by Wikipedia, because it duplicates the subject matter and information in the Frederikshavn article, and because it is inconsistent with the naming of many other Danish municipalities— there should be an opportunity to discuss why this article might be valid.

Please do not make a general attempt to create new articles with this "XXX municipality (2007-)" format without discussing it. There are already existing articles that cover this subject.

Revert: There is no such thing as a Frederikshavn (2007-) municipality, other minor

[edit] No such thing as a Frederikshavn (2007-) municipality

Please see the discussion about using official municipality names at Talk:Municipalities of Denmark. --SFDan 09:45, 31 October 2005 (UTC)


[edit] New municipality header

Insert {{enlargeddanishmunic}}

This municipality will be enlarged (its borders will be redefined) as of January 1, 2007 due to Kommunalreformen ("The Municipality Reform" of 2007). Its name will not change. This name is officially recognized by the Danish Ministry of the Interior and Health (Indenrigs- og Sundhedsministeriet) on their Danish-language list of official municipality names .