User talk:Setwisohi

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[edit] Welcome

Welcome!

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[edit] Fishing tackle

Hi Setwisohi. Welcome to wikipedia. I agree with your recent edit of fishing tackle when you tucked the untidy etymology away at the bottom. However, I do not agree with you removing that image merely because (for some strange reason which I don't understand either!) it was not resizing correctly. That is a hard won image that visually makes the salient point that any gear used for fishing, including tangled nets and rusty gear on a fishing boat, is also "tackle". However don't let that cramp your style, and keep trucking on! --Geronimo20 (talk) 11:37, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

Yes, it's a shame to have lost it. Sorry. If you can get it back and get it to fit, that would be a lot better! Setwisohi (talk) 16:35, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

I pinched it from Chris huh. --Geronimo20 (talk) 23:23, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Bite alarms

There is a problem with changing bite detectors on the templates to bite alarms. A bite alarm is an audible device, as in fire alarm, whereas a bite "detector" is a more general term, and could refer to visual or kinaesthetic devices. It is true that the template links to an article called "bite alarms" when strictly it should have linked to an article called bite detectors. But there is, so far, no article called "bite detectors".

To fix this, the templates need to be restored to where they were, and the name of the article called Bite alarm needs to be changed to "Bite detector". Then the article itself needs to be enlarged to reflect its enlarged status.

I have put these templates now on over 800 fishing articles and I am very aware of these issues (which crop up everywhere). Usually there is no simple fix to be made by just renaming items on the templates. The problems are structural, and can only be solved by renaming and expanding existing articles or creating new ones. I am doing just that bit by bit, but I can't do it all at once. Simple renames usually don't fix the problem. If you would like to help by expanding or creating the relevant articles, then you are more than welcome. --Geronimo20 (talk) 01:35, 31 May 2008 (UTC)

On second thoughts, "bite alarm" is better. A google search shows "bite detector" is hardly used at all. So you could leave the templates as they are (which is nice, since "bite alarm" is visually better on the template than "bite detector"). But the article called "Bite alarm" needs to be expanded so it is not confined to just audible devices. Please do that if you would want to - if you don't want to I'll do it. --Geronimo20 (talk) 01:52, 31 May 2008 (UTC)
  • OK, I can have a go at expanding the Bite Alarm article as you suggest. The only problem I can see is that, in the UK anyway, 'bite alarm' always refers to the audible electronic device whereas 'bite detector' includes all forms of indicator; alarms, floats, tips etc... So I think something needs putting somewhere to make that distinction more apparent for UK users? Setwisohi (talk) 11:50, 31 May 2008 (UTC)
Good, go for it. I'm not sure your "problem" exists. "Bite alarm" gets 90,000 hits on google, and "bite alarms" gets 78,000 hits. If you look at some of the articles you find they are not confined just to auditory alarms. "Bite detector" gets a miserly 1,360 hits, and "bite detectors" gets 2,570. A google search on "bite detector"+uk returns a minuscule 182 hits, while "bite detector"+us returns 825 hits, so I don't see any evidence at all that bite detector is more preferred in Britain. But you could go back to the original scenario, and create a new article called "Bite detector", and then revert the templates to reflect that.