Talk:Setback (game)

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These rules are good, however, I haven't been able to find a solution here or anywhere else to a question that came up while playing last week. Specific situation: 4 person game, first hand the lead is thrown as an A of hearts. That player's partner mistakes the heart for a diamond and throws a 10 of clubs, thus failing to follow suit while holding hearts in his hand. The mistake was realized a few hands later, what is the appropriate action to be taken at this point? More generally, what is the resolution when a player messes up, intentionally or not, and fails to follow suit when they are able to?

At the time we mucked the hand and redealt, others have said they should have been set 4 and the other team should have taken the number of points bid.

Depends how much you like the people you're playing with. If somebody flubs up like that when we're playing we usually do what you did rather than get vindictive with the points. Of course we play a slightly different version of the game than the rules given here. 131.24.119.11 16:06, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Improving the article?

I think I'm going to improve this article. Maybe a variations section can be included? I don't really recognize some of these rules, especially Jick. I've never heard of or seen Jick played in a Setback match. EarlCampbell20 06:01, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

Me neither. I also have a problem with this article being the same, almost, as the Pitch article. I have always used the two names interchangeably, and so I don't see a difference between the two except for the possibility of the rule variations, which there are always. Every time I'm with a different crowd, I make sure I know the rules that we're playing by. I personally learned to play with a deal of 8 cards, discard and redraw to make 8 again (or 6, I don't remember which). There were 5 points to be won: high, low, jack, game, and smudge (getting all of the tricks). I don't think I saw this variation here. Which leads me to believe that there's no set way to play the game. So maybe this should be written in the article. _└^Jared_┘^┌_t^┐  00:17, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

I think the Setback item is pretty good. Most card games evolve into many variations and any one version is unlikely to be the exact version that one plays or played. For instance we played the 7 point High, Low, Jack, Off-Jack (Jick), Joker, Off-Joker and Game version. You could bid up to 6 or shoot the moon and have to make all 7 points or go set (I forget how large this penalty set was, much more than 7 points as I remember). Also, someone who hated to get set I guess, came up with a Pick the Deck rule where the high bidder could, after the discards were replaced, go through the remaining cards and take any trumps that were left! At least this way all the points were always out. ^^^^ —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Bremo (talk • contribs) 02:50, August 20, 2007 (UTC).