Talk:Service stripe
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- Mentioned the term "hash mark".
- Navy and Marine Corps stripes are for four years of service, not three. Can't find a reference to CG stripes, but seeing as they are part of the Naval Service, I am going to assume they are four, as well.
- Changed reference to service and dress uniforms to mention formal uniforms. The variations and naming of uniforms between the services makes the terms "service" and "dress" meaningless when referring to more than one service. For example, the Army's Green Service "A" are often called dress uniforms, because the true Dress uniform, the blues, are rarely ever worn. Also, Marine Corps Dress "D" uniforms, a short sleeve shirt and blue trousers, wouldn't be considered a "Dress" uniform in the Navy.
- Removed reference to colored service stripes for USN. Stripes aren't awarded in red or gold grades, the color merely changes along with rank insignia for 12 years good service. This should be mentioned in the good conduct medal article, instead.
Just out of curiosity, where did that bit about the 80s experiment in the USMC come from?
References:
USN 4 year term: http://www-nmcp.med.navy.mil/EduRes/AcademicAffairs/Contacs/Chapter4.pdf
USMC 4 year term: http://www.tecom.usmc.mil/mcub/library/MCUR/URCH4.htm#UR4008
Army 3 year term & wear: http://www.usapa.army.mil/pdffiles/r670_1.pdf
--Uhlek 19:07, 19 Jun 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Gold-red
I put back in the info about the gold/red designation. It is not automatic and you must have a discipline free record to keep gold hash marks and rank insignia. I am a Personnel/Admin Officer in the U.S. Navy and have seen several cases where CPOs have "lost their gold" because they were convicted of an NJP. This point also appears in the film "Men of Honor". -Husnock 02:46, 22 Jun 2005 (UTC)
The wording's somewhat vague. I still stand by that one is not "issued" gold service stripes -- you are only awarded a stripe, the color worn depends on your disciplinary record. Splitting hairs, I know, but the way it's written makes it sound like a Sailor can have some red and some gold stripes. How about this for wording:
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- Service stripes worn by members of the US Navy or Coast Guard may be red or gold. The US Navy bases that distinction on the Sailor's disciplinary record, where twelve years of good conduct (defined as no court martial conviction or non-judicial punishment) is denoted by the wear of gold service stripes and rank insignia. The distinction is not permanent, however, and may be revolked if disciplinary action is taken. The Coast Guard, on the other hand, uses service stripe and rank insignia coloration to distinguish between junior enlisted men(E-1 through E-6) and chief petty officers (E-7 through E-9). --Uhlek 18:57, 22 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- That sounds great. You are very correct to say that you cannot wear red and gold at the same time. If you have not seen Men of Honor, you should do so. There's a very funny scene where Deniro is wearing red hash marks up to his arm. -Husnock 19:04, 22 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- Service stripes worn by members of the US Navy or Coast Guard may be red or gold. The US Navy bases that distinction on the Sailor's disciplinary record, where twelve years of good conduct (defined as no court martial conviction or non-judicial punishment) is denoted by the wear of gold service stripes and rank insignia. The distinction is not permanent, however, and may be revolked if disciplinary action is taken. The Coast Guard, on the other hand, uses service stripe and rank insignia coloration to distinguish between junior enlisted men(E-1 through E-6) and chief petty officers (E-7 through E-9). --Uhlek 18:57, 22 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Hash Marks! I am Wearing10 gold stripes for a total of 41yrs service in the Navy, USN/USNR. No disipline Problems. Someone says I only can wear 8. I checked the latest Navy Regs. It says: A servicemember is to wear 1 stripe for each 4yrs of service. Whos right??
