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The correct spelling of the Oldupai Gorge might be a point for dispute. Most people know it as the Olduvai Gorge which is nothing but incorrect. Oldupai is the Massai name for the sisal plant which is found there and that is why it is called the Oldupai Gorge. Anybody who has been on a Safari in Serengeti would know this since the rangers there make sure to explain the correct name. --Durst 10:57, 10 Jan 2005 (UTC)

isn't this the exact same article as the article entitled "the serengeti" correct me if i am wrong. -- rburp

Even though the correct spelling of Sisal after which the gorge is named is Oldupai, the spelling in common usage to describe the gorge itself is Olduvai (even on the official signs of the NCAA) as the mistake has now been going on for so long that it is senseless to try to correct it. As such it may be worth while to note the original and 'correct' spelling but still use the 'v' spelling. Non of us living in Tanzania would ever spell it as Oldupai. Maa was not a written language until recently which is how the difficulty arose in the first place, for example the correct spelling of Serengeti as in fact 'Siringit'. Merurider 19:57, 25 April 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Merge

Merging this article with Serengeti National Park sounds like a stupid idea, because one is a region, and the other is a park. They are not the same. --Avochelm 09:52, 7 January 2006 (UTC)

Agree, Serengeti is a district in Mara Region, Tanzania. The article should be re-writtin as such. --DelftUser 20:55, 17 January 2006 (UTC)
Actually Serengeti District article already exists. This article, on the other hand, treats geographic Serengeti region, which is neither a National park nor a district (or any other administrative division). Thus this article should stand as it is.
Agree: The Serengeti Migration is one of the seven modern wonders of the world. I wouldn't have found it under the Serengeti National Park. It is an action not a place.

Made some editorial changes to the first paragraph. The previous was kind of confusing when you first looked at it. --L.J.Brooks 4:46, 19 March 2006 (UTC)

Agree: The article itself answers the question: "The Serengeti region contains the Serengeti National Park." If the two topics were to be merged, the section on the park should be a subsection of this one. However, I believe that the two articles should stay as they are, separate but linked as related topics.
I feel that the article needs to be expanded upon, cleaned up, and made better. Then at the top we add a link to a DAB page that offers the District and the NP. This article should contain a small section with an overview of the NP, and have a link to the main Serengeti NP article. --MPD01605 01:17, 28 March 2006 (UTC)
There is no region called "Serengeti" in Tanzania, the Serengeti NP covers area in both Mara and Shinyanga Regions. There is a District called Serengeti District in Mara Region. "Serenegti" is sometimes used to describe an indistinct 'area' in Tanzania, but such a description has no place in an encyclopedia as it can never be defined. One remedy might be to create an article called "Serengeti-Mara Ecosystem" - a term used by many conservationists to describe the area utilised by the annual wildebeest and zebra migration, encompassing an area ranging across both Tanzania and Kenya, including 3 regions, several different districts and 5 protected areas. Such a definition relies not on administrative boundaries but biological ones. This article is inaccurate and misleading and should not be merged into Serengeti National Park but deleted altogether or extensively re-written. Merurider 19:40, 25 April 2006 (UTC)
This should be renamed to Serengeti Plain. From [1]
"An area of northern Tanzania bordering on Kenya and Lake Victoria. It is internationally well-known for its extensive wildlife preserve."
The Plain is one thing, the Park is another, and the District is a third. Simple. If the Park article is small enough, it should go into the Plain article. --MPD01605 19:54, 25 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Update of Serengeti National Park article

Since the main consencus above seemed to be not merging the two articles i have extensively updated the Serengeti National Park article which was suggested as being merged into here. I am also happy to update this article to refer to Serengeti District (which is where most links point) which is the only truly definable distinction between the 2 articles. I did this as the main interest is in the national park rather than the district.

Hopefully the edit is helpful and hasn't trodden on any toes.

Merurider 17:10, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Vandalism

Hi. New to this, but I was looking at the Serengeti page and someone is taking the mick: Serengeti is an African word and has nothing to do with Wales as far as I am aware. Can anyone wwho knows what they are doing have a look at the entry and edit it appropriately? Oh and one of the references calls a pop-up.

User = Sean Waters Sean Waters 18:20, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Images

We need to see where the serengeti is, and what it look like. Kevlar67 13:41, 23 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Lion King

Although most sources that I could find state merely that Disney artists went to "Africa", there is no doubt that they went to the Serengeti. Unfortunately, I didn't take any photographs of the rock outcroppings that are interspersed across the plains. The baboa trees seen in the "flim" are seen frequently on the main road into the Serengeti from Arusha. If anyone wants to look at the Lion King dvd, you may find a special feature where they talk about this in greater depth. I hope to have time to do more work on this article in the near future. Steve Pastor 21:49, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] copy of material recently replaced

The Serengeti is a 60,000 square kilometer savanna which lies over Tanzania.[1] The Serengeti straddles the Tanzanian Kenyan border. This means that this reference is incorrect. Perhaps the author of this article was writing about the Park only??? Also, there are a number of different habitats, which will be put into the article. Again, I believe a journal article from Africa may be more accurate than one from "The New Scientist". More to come. Steve Pastor (talk) 23:09, 23 November 2007 (UTC)

Actually, it looks like the content was incorrectly changed in this edit: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Serengeti&diff=159211373&oldid=157250099. I think your edits are improvements. -SpuriousQ (talk) 09:52, 24 November 2007 (UTC)

Good to know someone is checking things out! Steve Pastor (talk) 21:09, 25 November 2007 (UTC)