Talk:Serbs of Mostar

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Estavisti - I'll see what little help I can be here, but I think that this is really too far-fetched. There is nothing here that shouldn't be in Bosnian Serbs, or if you really want to seperate, "Serbs of Herzegovina" would be the most that I would suggest. --PaxEquilibrium 11:11, 8 October 2006 (UTC)

Perhaps this article could elaborate a bit more on Santic, or what do you say? Few authors are so famous, and I'd say he's the most famous person ever from Mostar. I don't feel qualified myself to write the piece as I'm sure others know more, but I think it could be a nice addition JdeJ 14:22, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

This page would get cluttered up quite quickly if we did that for all the people listed. They have their own pages after all. --estavisti 18:01, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Ethnic cleansing or expulsion?

Copied from my userpage. Novalis 04:14, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

The reason I put back "expelled" is not because I don't believe in the events themselves! It's the term itself "ethnic cleanse" which is harsh and unfair. The only people ever to have waged "ethnic war" is the rotten Americans and their puppet allies. War is war, in the Balkans it happened, and you and I can't go back and change it. But if there is one thing that every conflict had in common, it is that what looked like an ethnic war - did infact have a political theme at its base - and as such, Albanians from Kosovo and W.Macedonia did have a number of ethnic Serbs/Macedonians on their side; equally many Albanians who were (and still are) non-sympathisers of Greater Albanian enthusiasts found themselves victims of Albanian atrocity, seeking comfort through the security forces of FR Yugoslavia or Macedonia; at the same time, the armies of Yugoslavia and Macedonia did themselves recruit some of these Albanians to carry out duties in their war against the KLA (and that could have meant, part-taking in expelling Albanian families who funded or supported the KLA). And all of this applies to each war in the Balkans; Croat vs Serb, Bosniak vs Croat and so on and so forth. The idiots stupid enough to take up arms themselves to fight the battles for a cleric who never even knew their names, may well have been stupid enough to say "I fight for the Serb army, death to all Croats", but those further up the ladder, the generals and intellects knew that down there among this bunch of idiots fighting for them, were people of various ethnicities. Some even made it higher up the ranking, Bunaovic's mayor was Albanian before they murdered him, and such they did because he was in the SPS; and if one can make it into that league, and still call himself Albanian, then the grounds for the fighting could not have been ethnic! But when the US and their NATO buddies cried "genocide! ethnic cleansing!" even though it clearly wasn't, they got involved and went to war. To substantiate their claims, they had to be tight-lipped that Milosevic employed Albanians; Albanians employed Slavic peoples - and so their war against FR Yugoslavia was against an ethnic group. Any Serb/Slavic person killed by NATO was a victim of ethnic atrocity. The people of Mostar harmed in the article all had in common the fact that they were Serb, but the real reason they were expelled was because they chose not to alline themselves politicly to the perpetrators of their attacks! Just to clarify, I don't dispute anything and I know Serb civilians were victims in all conflicts. 212.24.91.2 12:39, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

While your comments are interesting, I don't think they show that what happened to the Serbs in Mostar was part of a deliberate policy of removing Serbs from certain area, and that that policy was described by the media as ethnic cleansing. Maybe there was a non-ethnic component to it too, but that doesn't mean that the term is inaccurate. I don't particularly want to get into an edit war. Shall we take this to mediation?

Well if you must. I don't want an edit war either, especially when we are not against each other over the issue. I'm just saying that the citizens of Mostar, like everyone else, was harmed on political rather than ethnic grounds. The trouble is, people use ethnicit6y themselves to get into large groups, and that is the source of this international confusion. 212.24.91.2 10:26, 27 March 2007 (UTC)