Talk:Serbian Vojvodina

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[edit] The administrator

Main commitee was formed at the Assembly of 15th of May 1848, at which head of the Main commitee was elected. It was not the Patriarh but Đorđe Stratimirović who formed local commities and subcommities. Imbris 03:27, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

Josif Rajačić became administrator later after Stevan Šupljikac died. PANONIAN (talk) 08:25, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

You do not know even thay icy bicy piece of info. Stevan Šupljikac was Voivode (temporary of course), and Josif Rajačić was Patriarh. Đorđe Stratimirović was an administrator, and negotiated with Hungarians. This is why you do not mention him. Imbris 00:13, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

Stevan Šupljikac WAS NOT temporary voivode - there is no word "temporary" in the document that elected him as voivode. Also, Josif Rajačić was a patriarch, but later was administator (or head of the government if you like more) - I say later, not in May 1848. Regarding Stratimirović, I do not see problem that he is mentioned too, as well as other important persons of the time, but I have no time now to expand article with this information. PANONIAN (talk) 13:05, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] I will check for the birth certificates

And if their names were Stevan and Josif - then we have no problem. If their names were just a bit, a smallest, a tinniest bit different, I will scan the birth certificates, post them here and then change their names to the orriginal. Is that clear, I think that it is. Imbris 03:38, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

We do not need your fabricated "certificates" made in Photoshop - the names that should be used in the article are same that are used in historical books. PANONIAN (talk) 08:24, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

The birth certificates will have a nummber of the Archive of the land in which they were borned. Your books are a fabrication in some sections of course, but in many section yes. YES. Imbris 00:13, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

It is just your own biased opinion that "my books are a fabrication" and you have no single proof to support such claims. Regarding birth certificates from the 19th century, such certificates were made with political goal to delete Serbian names and Serbs in those certificates were written under Hungarian or Croatian names. I know that very well because some of my own ancestors were written in documents as Istvan or Ilona, no matter that their true names were Stevan and Jelena. Those birth certificates were part of discrimination policy towards Serbs in the Habsburg Monarchy and names that could be found in such certificates are simply not native names of the people. PANONIAN (talk) 13:05, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

If I find a birth certificate of a Serbian Ortodox Church or the register of that church. Ha. What then. Imbris 01:21, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

Then I am not sure how can you prove is this certificate real or just your fabrication in photoshop...just for a start. PANONIAN (talk) 14:41, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

Well, well. We all see what is on your mind. Who lies - he steals - who steals - he murders. The only one who lies here is you. When I get my hand on those documents I will have the nummbers and registrars book of the births in that year. You can't forge this. And I will not ruin my reputation by lies as you do all the time. Imbris 04:31, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

Please, do not bother me with stupidities - I just said that knowing you very well, I doubt that you can provide any original documents rather than fabrications from Photoshop. But anyway, what is a point of statements like "you will have those documents", etc? If and when you provide some of those documents then we can discuss about them, not before that. PANONIAN (talk) 11:29, 20 March 2007 (UTC)