Talk:September 11, 2001 attacks in popular culture

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[edit] "video games" comment

Deleting the video games section shows ignorance concerning the cultural significance of gaming.VForVendetta 16:56, 21 March 2006 (UTC)

I disagree. Gaming is certainly a significant cultural phenomenon, it just arguably does not fall under the rubric of "arts and literature"; a discussion of gaming's responses to 9/11 should more aptly go elsewhere. Darwin Tallhouse 18:36, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

Metal Gear Solid 2: Sons of Liberty, since it took place in the future, wouldn't it only make sense that the towers were removed? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.108.85.226 (talk) 05:16, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Bowling for Columbine

What about in Bowling for Columbine? The 'Wonderful world' Montage?

[edit] POV Tag

Since there's no discussion of any POV issues, am deleting this tag. Ogdred 20:37, 26 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] various additions

  • Yasmin, a film that played at various film festivals around the world and aired on TV, I think, in the UK. It's about a Muslim woman in northern England who experiences racism after 9/11.
  • A film whose name I can't remember, about a police officer or firefighter who has to give a eulogy for his colleagues, and hires a freelance writer to help him, then falls in love with her.
  • The TV series "Third Watch" did an episode set on September 11. It aired in late 2001.
  • "The West Wing" had a special episode, airing at the start of the 2001-02 TV season, about a terror attack.
  • "Law & Order" and its various spinoffs has made numerous references to 9/11 and had at least two episodes whose plots related directly to the WTC attacks. In one of them, the cops investigated the death of a woman who supposedly had died in the WTC on 9/11, but it turned out that her boyfriend had actually murdered her the day before and one of her limbs (or maybe some other body part) into the pit at Ground Zero. In another episode, there was a murder on the Staten Island Ferry, resulting from a dispute between widows of those who died at 911.--Mathew5000 03:42, 8 May 2006 (UTC)

I propose adding a link to Tiger Cruise as one of the films that discusses these attacks, even though it never appears in theaters--User:Nutster 16:09, August 26, 2006 (EDT)

[edit] Cleaning up the music section

There's tag suggesting a mop-up of this section. I just edited the section, with an eye towards minimizing subjectivity and establishing a neutral tone to the individual entries. I also edited the "Disintegration Loops" entry, but it remains barely coherent and should be considered for deletion. Darwin Tallhouse 18:32, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] The Hamburg Cell

There's one film missing from the Films about 9/11 section: The Hamburg Cell, a made for TV british movie.

[edit] Proposed merge

Let's get some input on the proposed merging of the article List of films about September 11, 2001 into this article.

  • Strong support: These two articles cover the exact same material, only List of films about September 11, 2001 is more specific (unnecessarily so). It's also a pretty easy merge to do. --Gpollock 20:37, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Support per Gpollock. --Mathew5000 21:38, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Support: seems obvious. --Ogdred 01:22, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
  • Support. Nareek 02:19, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
  • Strong support it would it in perfectly.64.12.116.72 05:40, 10 September 2006 (UTC)
  • Against. List of films about September 11, 2001 is more specific (NOT unnecessarily so). See here. --213.216.199.6 00:54, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
  • Support - Per Gpollock.--Bryson{Talk}{Edits} 21:10, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

You should definitely merge List of fictional works about 9/11. I think there are a few titles in there that aren't mentioned here, but it's only a list, so they should just be transferred over and that page closed.

[edit] what about the 9/11 reports graphic adaption

Shouldn't that also be added to the part with the comics. I don't think it was published by any comic company though. Also i am not sure what the title of the song is called but i believe the band Box Car Racer also put out a song about 9/11

[edit] Banned?

Aaahh!!! Real Monsters: 2 Episodes 1-04 (Monstrous Makeover / A Wing and a Scare) and 4-06 (Nuclear and Present Danger / Loch Ness Mess) are now banned from being shown on US TV and were missed during Nicktoon TV's looped reruns, as one episode featured a plane crash it was most likely the events of 9/11 that prevented it from being aired. Reasons for Episode 4-06's banning remain unclear. However both these episodes still air on the British version of Nicktoons TV.

This is very poorly written. It implies its legally not permissible to show these episodes, while a far more likely explanation is that Nicktoons or the studio that owns the rights voluntarily pulled the episodes out of rotation because they didn't want to deal with complaints (as is their right). Very rarely does anything get "banned" from US cable TV. Anyone care to comment? Kensuke Aida 08:44, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

I agree. In addition to that, I would have to say that the wording doesn't exactly have a neutral point of view to it in my opinion. -- DSGruss 04:35, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] This has so, so much trivia

I want to say it's unencyclopedic, but I'm just not sure what to make of it really.--h i s s p a c e r e s e a r c h 23:06, 13 December 2007 (UTC)


Some trivia not listed (as of this writing). The most obvious seems to be the plot for Tom Clancy's "Debt of Honor". There are trivia entries you might call it for strange coincidences in movies, this a strange coincidence in literature. In film the 1978 Television miniseries "Evening in Byzantium" had a plot involving multiple hijacked airliners that are shot down. This was probably inspired by the Dawson Field Hijackings in 1970, also known as Skyjack Sunday. The other strange thing I noticed was the Kubrik collection DVD edition of 2001: A Space Odyssey I purchased shortly before the attacks had an insert that in hindsight is a coincidence. It promoted the release of his remaining films in the special Kubrick collection DVD's, available September 11, 2001. Skywayman (talk) 13:02, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Organize by date?

I was thinking about making sure all entries are dated, and possibly sorting or grouping them by year. Good idea or not? --Rpresser 15:12, 7 March 2008 (UTC)