Talk:Seoul Foreign School

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[edit] Notable Alumni

This article needs to be regularly reverted because apparently non-notable names are added to the list of notable alumni. If you are going to add a name to the list, please could you ensure that information is provided that shows that the alumnus is indeed notable. Thanks Twigletmac 15:42, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

well i have finally found references for Ien Chi. Michael Forrester's, Psychology of the Image and Jean Mitry's, The Aesthetics and Psychology of the Cinema both of which refer to Ien Chi at points in the book. The first book refers to him in page 47, "Short film director Ien Chi applied the usage of social psychology in his 2nd short film, 'Stonewall' which introduced another way of communicating cognitively with the audience as well as interactively." The Aesthetics and Psychology of the Cinema says, "Ien Chi often portrays various types of psychology in his films....Stride and Stonewall particularly assembled together concepts of inner strength and optimism which led the way to humanitarian drama films." I hope this reference is good enough. Ien Chi is one of my favorite directors partly because he is my second cousin but also because of the strength and message of his short films. But I'm sorry to say there not many websites and/or books with his name. Ien Chi graduated from Seoul Foreign School i believe in 1991.

He seems reasonably notable, but do you also have a reference for his being a SFS graduate? I don't mean to be nitpicky, but per WP:V we do need some form of reliable verification. -- Visviva 12:54, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

Yes, unfortunately the two books I put up do not say that he is a Seoul Foreign School graduate in them. But I know that he is for sure because I met him at our family reunion because he is my second cousin and I remember him telling me that he graduated from Seoul Foreign School. If you would really really really like me to find a source that says he is a Seoul Foreign School graduate then I will but would rather not because it would take some time. Otherwise, the 1991 Seoul Foreign School yearbook will have his name in it.

Hello I'd just like to say, someone keeps deleting Ien Chi from the notable alumni section. This action is not appropriate and i do have refrences to Ien Chi. Please stop deleting Ien Chi from the notable alumni section.

Unfortunately, unless you can provide references specifically linking him to Seoul Foreign School, that information does not belong here. Again, please see Wikipedia:Verifiability. -- Visviva 05:08, 19 January 2007 (UTC)
But there is verifiable information provided in the references section.

I'd like to point out, Eddie Shin from Seoul Foreign School is a singer and not an actor. The article of Eddie Shin the link leads to has no indication that he had anything to do with singing. These are two different Eddie Shins.


[edit] Blatantly False Info

I would like to point out that Ien Chi is not an alumni (yet) here (taken from the Seoul Foreign High School 2005-2006 yearbook. He is a 10th grader (who does, however according to SFS students, produce short films). Also, David Lim is NOT a stuntman/martial artist. He is an 11th grader currently attending Seoul Foreign School. Jason 09:42, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

But define "truth." If this prediction turns out to be right, we're clairvoyant. If it doesn't, it's average Wikipedia vandalism. It's a school site, too, and so the students and alumni are the only ones who we can plan on visiting it. Just have a little fun, and you too can be as great as MagnaSepta 14:00, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

Refer to the official Wikipedia policy on notability. This takes precedence over what you call "clairvoyant". If you wish to be clairvoyant, Wikipedia is not the place for your unconstructive edits. Jason 16:12, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

Firstly. Clairvoyance obviously beats Wikipedia any day. Secondly. Who really cares, besides you? It's funny. Don't you get it? No, I see you don't. 'Cause if you did, you would be just like MagnaSepta 04:38, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

I see that you are quite an interesting specimen. You may (or may not be Clara the Clairvoyant hopefully, you are not Esteban García). However, you shall be stopped by Jason, (a message?) 06:08, 15 February 2007 (UTC). Back to J-Pop.

It is not blatantly false information. Ien Chi is NOT a 9th grader at SFS. He is an alumni currently producing short films in California with Focus Features. Or maybe it is a ridiculous coincidence that they are both Ien Chi. May I ask where you got the information that he is a 9th grader at SFS from?

I would like to place the burden on the opposition of proving Ien Chi's notability. Given the fact that you are an anonymous IP (61.72.47.41) constantly editing the Wikipedia page for Seoul Foreign School, and the forementioned edits are continually reverted due to a lack of proof of notability, as user Twigletmac has warned you for as well, that you need to discover the source that determines Ien Chi as notable. Also, please refer to the [1] that I performed to find any traces of this ever elusive Ien Chi. Needless to say, no sources were found. Maybe, if you truly can come up with that important source, you can truly be like MagnaSepta... sorry, I meant Jason, (a message?) 12:00, 17 February 2007 (UTC).

I'm confused because before I already provided sources regarding Ien Chi's notability but it seems to have been deleted. I'll just put it up again.

No, you are not confused. You seem to be deliberately adding unsourced information onto Wikipedia. In one of your sources (Jean Mitry, The Aesthetics and Psychology of the Cinema), using Google Books [2], there is no occurrence of the phrase "Ien Chi" anywhere within the book. Therefore, the source that you have stated is unacceptable as evidence of the notibility of Ien Chi. I shall repeat myself... Maybe, if you truly can come up with that important source, you can truly be like MagnaSepta... sorry, I meant Jason, (a message?) 13:39, 18 February 2007 (UTC).

Sheesh people, can't we just have a little bit of fun? I mean come on, seriously. Why do the wikipedia people have to be so Beaurocratic? It's not like the notable alumni information is going to hurt anyone. And please don't respond by telling me to go read the Wikipedia rules and that every piece of information needs citable sources. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 61.72.47.41 (talk • contribs).

This isn't very persuasive. Please source notability and status as an alumnus as others have also requested. It seems fairly clear that the name is challenged and should thus be cited. Thanks. skip (t / c) 10:38, 6 March 2007 (UTC)
Hello once again I've provided references. I'd just like to say gokugohan keeps deleting the references I put up.

[edit] Article Quality Rating

Moving Article to C-Class/Unstable from Unstable. Jason 10:50, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Article Rank Change

Moving article to 4th rank from 5th rank. I think that this article is a little bit more than an very small topic area. Not quite 3rd rank though, I'll admit.

[edit] Slight Influence?

The Influence of Christianity section claims that "there is universal respect for all religions with a slight influence on Christianity". This statement is misleading. The influence at the school is very strong and noticeable. Here's a list of examples of Christian influence:
-Students are encouraged to pray during assemblies
-The school mascot is the "Crusader"
-Creationism and intelligent design are taught in the biology curriculum, evolution is explained but much evidence is presented in the curriculum to disprove it(I took biology there)
-Students are required to have 1.5 religious class credits in Christian-oriented classes
There is no discrimination against people of other religions however I believe the "there is universal respect for all religions with a slight influence on Christianity" needs to be changed to "there is universal respect for all religions however there is a strong Christian influence within the school"

The teachers make everyone pray. If you are not bowing your head during a religious speech because you are of a different religion, you are given detention. Christian influence, my ass. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 61.129.106.132 (talk) 03:07, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

WTF —Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.102.100.5 (talk) 04:24, 14 November 2007 (UTC)