User talk:Senor Cuete

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Contents 1 Welcome! 2 Habanero 3 Earth Risk 4 Tlaloc 5 Mesoamerican Calendars

[edit] Welcome!

Welcome to Wikipedia! Also, thanks for your edits to Geology of the Grand Teton area correcting some bad facts from the first edition of Creation of the Teton Landscape. I'm using that version to expand the article because it is PD text. But I'm going to buy the second edition (2003) to check the article against before I push this to featured article status. Again - thanks for your edits. :) --mav 23:37, 28 July 2007 (UTC)

I have both the old one and the newer re-write. These errors are in the newer edition.

[edit] Habanero

Could you inform me why you reverted my habanero edit? Why should it be "A habanero"? It's "an habanero" in three or four places on that same page. I'll wait a few days for your response, then I'll change it again, and add an entry in the talk page.

- Misha

216.254.12.114 22:54, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

I probably shouldn't have. Whether you use a or an depends on whether you are using the indefinite article to modify a word that starts with a vowell sound. No, there is NOT an exception for the word "historic" so "an historic" is a very common mistake in English. Most English speakers would pronounce the 'h' so they would use 'a'. Wikipedia is generally regarded as an English dictionary. On the other hand habanero is really a spanish word and in Spanish you would not pronounce the 'h'. Many English speakers have been exposed to Spanish and don't pronounce the 'h' and would use "an" so go ahead and change it back and I won't do anything about it. Maybe some text about the pronounciation is in order. - Cuete

Righty-o.

– Misha

216.254.12.114 10:06, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Earth Risk

Leave it alone why are you touching the mayan thing?76.112.23.57 (talk) 01:56, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

Because it's wrong. You could find out about it by reading the Wikipedia articles about the Long Count and the Aztec Calendar. There are 13 Bak'tuns in a Pictun and the first Pictun (144,000 x 13 days) is what ends on 12/21/2012. The "Aztec" calendar is an adaptation of the Mesoamerican Calendar. It has nothing to do with any 26000 year cycle and a great year has nothing to do with it. If you wrote the Maya calendar part of this article you should be ashamed of yourself for spreading new-age disinformation.

Just to tell you when i first saw this artical it was the same thing and nobody was touching it because it under the fictional area oh its Baktuns not piktun76.112.23.57 (talk) 02:38, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

Since you're already looking at Wikipedia, why not read the article about the Maya calendar. You could make less of a fool of yourself if you did. It's about 99.9% correct. Also if you read the talk page and then you would understand why new age disinformation is never allowed in the article. The new age spiritualist sites have a vast quantity of disinformation about this subject. Jose Arguelles, Carl Johann Callemans, Ian Lungold etc. is all complete crap. Your use of capitalization, spelling, grammar and punctuation are atrocious. Actually it's "Bak'tun". What will end on 12/21/2012 is the 13th Bak'tun. There are 13 Bak'tuns in a Piktun. the Long count date on 12/21/2012 is 1.0(13).0.0.0.0. The one is Piktuns. I know, I know, don't confuse me with the facts, right?

Why is under the fictional area then and by they way provide a reliable source saying that76.112.23.57 (talk) 03:13, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

Aveni, Anthony F. (2001). Skywatchers. Austin: University of Texas Press. ISBN 0-292-70502-6 It's OK dude, I spent three years in the second grade too.

Then put that little number thing to show your proof76.112.23.57 (talk) 03:44, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Tlaloc

Mexicans are the people who live in modern day mexico. The Mexica however were a Nahua tribe who lived in Tenochtitlan and were one of the tribes that formed what has become known as "the Aztec empire". I don't particularly like the use of the term "Aztec" because it is vague and misleading - however we have had many large discussio on this on pages related to Nahua peoples and "Aztec" culture and we have decided that it is the best known term in the english language to describe things having to do with the precolumbian Nahua peoples. As for the many interpretations of the name Tlaloc. Tlalocan means place of Tlaloc. Another name for Tlaloc is Tlalocantecuhtli "The Lord of Tlalocan" but since the name Tlalocan itself includes the name Tlaloc it is incorrect to say that Tlaloc is a shortening of Tlalocantecuhtli - rather Tlalocantecuhtli is a longer form of Tlaloc. The interpretation of "Tlaloc" as meaning "long cave" or "road beneath the ground" is given by Fray Diego Durán in his description of Aztec Gods. It is based in an interpretataion of the name as being tlal-o-c "earth-road-on" - the idea that it should be a long cave is an interpretation that we cannot know where he found. I have supplied that precise statement with a quotation to the source (Lopez Austins "Tlalocan Tamoanchan - places of Mist"). i am not done with reshaping the article and I will supply more quotations. ·Maunus· ·ƛ· 18:42, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Mesoamerican Calendars

You are right about the importance of distinguishing the julian/gregorian calendars and that the long count was a modified base 20 calendar. However you are not correct that cohuatl is a "phonetic" spelling cohuatl (or cōhuatl) is the spelling used by experts in the classical language because it is known to have a long vowel and an intermediate [w] - Launeys, Andrews' and Carochis grammars all write it this way. How it is pronounced in Cuetzalan or any other modern day Nahua communities is beside the point since this is about a precolumbian phenomenon that is only known in classical Nahuatl. You have made other modifications to the article which are incorrect and unhelpful. You have removed a paragraph stating that "The correlation of the 52 year day count cycle to the European calendar is problematic, mostly because the calendar usage wasn't synchronized between all of the communities of Mesoamerica. This means that one must know its origin and the specific correlation applicable for that place. Secondly it is made difficult by the possibility that the cycle might at times be "reset" for political purposes - for example if a ruler wanted to mark his rule as the beginning of a new dynasty.Often the best correlation can be made when both european and indigenous sources give a specific date. For example we know from Spanish sources that the day the Aztec capital Tenochtitlan fell was on august 13, 1521. Indigenous sources from central Mexico agree that this was a day Ce Cohuatl (1 Snake) in a year Eyi Calli (3 house)." This information comes from Alfonso Casos article in the Handbook of Middleamerican Indians, and is corroborated by any number of sources. If you believe that there was one single synchronized calendar in all of mesoamerica you are simply wrong. In the basin of Mexico alone different calendars were used - and the date called Ce Cohuatl in Tenochtitlan would have another name in for example Cuitlahuac. It is well documented that calendrical "resettings" were used as a political instrument in central Mexico where for example the New Fire Ceremony was moved out of sync at least one time in order to coincide with a major political event (it was moved from 1 rabbit to 2 reed in 1507 ) - and much suggest that it was the political powers who controlled the calendar to a wide degree. (see eg. Hassig 2001)·Maunus· ·ƛ· 06:23, 22 April 2008 (UTC)