Talk:Semiramis
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Added the Armenian legend accompanied with a picture. It's a very short summary, somebody more qualified could expand later.--Eupator 01:06, 28 January 2006 (UTC)
Does Josephus mention Ninus? I would like to see the source. Summer Song 13:50, 25 February 2006 (UTC)
- google search Agathoclea 14:23, 25 February 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Forcing suicide?
"Ninus was so struck by her bravery at the capture of Bactra that he married her, forcing Onnes to commit suicide." -- Something is wrong with this sentence. Did the marriage so upset Onnes that he committed suicide? I suspect that's what is trying to be said here, but it needs to be worded differently to be clear. Aleta 03:39, 28 January 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Melchizedekjesus
Asarelah, feel free to re-insert Melchizedekjesus's "controversial theory," but not in its current form please. Proper references need to be provided. For example: WHEN and WHERE did St. Augustine say that the cult of Venus and Cupid morphed into the cult of the Virgin Mary? And many others. Clean it up to meet accepted Wikipedia standards, then feel free to re-insert. -- 70.171.49.117 04:39, 28 January 2007 (UTC)
Wait a minute... aren't you the person who already cleaned it up, about a month ago? I thought you did a good job. Unfortunately Melchizedekjesus keeps deleting your cleaned-up version, and re-inserting his original version, without ever making any effort to cite sources properly. People who re-insert the same material dozens of times, without addressing legitimate concerns, get reverted and blocked. -- 70.171.49.117 04:51, 28 January 2007 (UTC)
- Yes, I did clean it up and he did keep changing back. I suppose I'd better contact him and explain what I'm trying to do here. Hopefully we can get this straightened out. Asarelah 06:09, 28 January 2007 (UTC)
I do not understand any part that needs "cleaning", I'm very sorry that I look so abrupt, but if you go back and look at the history no one started by asking me to improve it, or suggestions, each person would just revert my contribution, and say I was a chick follower, and that my info was bogus. I know that these sources are legit. I spent over 32 hours compiling data for a report on Semiramis for a presentation of a Genesis class at Bible College, my dad was surprised, and checked it out too. I used very expensive archive software at the college (Libronix). I have noticed that the people that point blank delete your work without a word, usually ask questions later, and not for correction, but to further challenge and contest the facts for sake of justifing their own biased opinion. As for St. Augustine someone else called him a "Catholic" Patriarch re-editing my work, I don’t have a problem with Catholics, or Christians, I just know the facts should be accessible to everyone. St. Augustine did not say the cult of Venus/Cupid morphed into the cult of Mary, he retells how the temple of Venus was changed slightly to accommodate Mary as a result many pervesions corrupted her identity, and you can read the rest. I don’t want to hear about how Augustine never existed, or his work was changed, or any other bogus tactics to suppress this very real controversy. sincerly, MelchizedekJesus
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- Let me first assure you that I have no agenda other than improving the article. The main problem here is that when people made edits attempting to improve upon the section you added, you continued to change it back again and again to your version, which I tried to improve upon not only because I thought that it was biased, but because, in my opinion, it was rather unclear and poorly written. When you add information to wikipedia, you agree to allow other editors to edit it. So let them. Furthermore, although Hislop's theory certainly should be mentioned in the article, you kept presenting it as the only "true" origin of Semiramis. There is no consensous among historians as to the origins of Semiramis, and to present this theory as being the only "true" one is heavily biased. Furthermore, at least one did try to get you to address your concerns on the talk page through mentioning it in the edit summaries. (such as the 23 December 2006 version by Codex Sinaiticus). I would be more than happy to include information on Hislop's theory, I simply want to make sure that it is unbiased, and I can't do that if you continue to reinsert the same flawed version of the section over and over again. Also, please sign your posts on talk pages using four tildes. Instructions on how to do so are found at the top of the talk page when you edit it. Thank you. Asarelah 20:46, 28 January 2007 (UTC)
You put on a pretty face and reasonable attitude here in the discussion like you are putting on a show for sombody. All you have done, and anyone can look at the history, you would dump what I wrote, I would rewrite, and reinsert, then without a word you would revert it completely off, then someone else asked my for more neutrality, I complied as best as possible remaining true to the consensous of the historians I researched. You are out of order by dumping my work, you have several other sections on this page to lord over. So quit your act, your history speaks loud and clear.
- What do you mean? If you examine the history (for example, the version I created on December 27, 2006 http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Semiramis&oldid=96665978), I made repeated attempts to rewrite it, you kept reinserting previous versions. If you will not be reasonable, I will be forced to ask the administrators to intervene in this matter. Asarelah 01:11, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
I thought she was queen of Babylon, not Assyria as stated in the first few lines. I am not a historian; I thought these two empires were mortal enemies. Was there ever a time when they were one? 75.9.35.38 (talk) 03:03, 8 December 2007 (UTC)
- Not that I'm aware of. Does it say both Babylon and Assyria in the article? Asarelah (talk) 05:54, 8 December 2007 (UTC)
- It clearly says she was a 'legendary Assyrian queen' in the first few lines. But later it is clear she is associated with Babylon. I'm just wondering if this is a mistake or if there is some historical basis for her association with both empires or for some precursor to them (of which I know nothing). 75.9.35.38 (talk) 00:02, 13 December 2007 (UTC)
