Wikipedia talk:Selected anniversaries/May 4

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Anybody have a map of the Alexander VI demarcation line? RickK | Talk 05:14, 14 Mar 2004 (UTC)

Such a map would look nice on the Inter caetera page. -- PFHLai 22:42, 2005 May 2 (UTC)

[edit] Kent State?

Shouldn't the Kent State shootings be mentioned on this pagelet? -- Schnee (cheeks clone) 22:05, 4 May 2005 (UTC)

It was there. I took it out to avoid having too much blank space on the right side of MainPage. I meant to rotate it back in some time during the day, but was too busy elsewhere to do so. .... -- PFHLai 04:20, 2005 May 5 (UTC)


[edit] Errors in Selected anniversaries/On this day

The main page now says:

  • 1970 - The Ohio National Guard shot at students in Kent State University protesting the United States invasion of Cambodia.

They more than "shot at students" - they killed four students and wounded nine students, one of whom has been paralyzed for 37 years as a result, on the campus of Kent State University. This is taking NPOV to an extreme, and in fact I believe it is misleading. These facts are not in dispute whatsoever, and they are crucial. For the first time in US history, armed soldiers were brought onto a US campus where they shot and killed four students and wounded nine, one of them for life. You do a disservice to the truth to characterize it as merely "shot at" when there were deaths and grievous injury and saying "students in Kent State University" which does not clearly state that the protest and shootings were on campus. I hope this can be fixed quickly, before it scrolls off. Thank you.

It should read something like:

  • 1970 - The Ohio National Guard shot and killed four students on the Kent State University campus who were protesting the United States invasion of Cambodia. Nine other students were wounded, one of whom is paralyzed for life.

Tvoz |talk 19:31, 4 May 2007 (UTC)

No matter how many bullets reached the students's bodies, this is still the first time in history when armed soldiers were brought onto a US campus to shoot at students. --74.13.126.166 20:59, 4 May 2007 (UTC)
Yes, that is correct, but it doesn't say that either. All it says is they shot at students. Killing them is worse than shooting at them, wouldn't you agree? To not say that is a distortion of the event and of the truth. Tvoz |talk 21:29, 4 May 2007 (UTC)
Mentioning the 4 deaths seems okay, as there is ample room. I don't see any distortion either way. --74.13.126.166 02:01, 5 May 2007 (UTC)

Once again I've asked that '"1970 – The Ohio National Guard shot at students in Kent State University protesting the United States invasion of Cambodia." be changed to "1970 – The Ohio National Guard killed four students and wounded nine in Kent State University protesting the United States invasion of Cambodia." It is not just a detail that 4 students were killed. As I've said elsewhere, this is like saying that John Wilkes Booth shot at Abraham Lincoln. I would guess that we say that he shot and killed Lincoln. Tvoz/talk 15:01, 3 May 2008 (UTC)