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http://www.vex.net/~nizkor/hweb/imt/nca/nca-01/nca-01-09-aggression-04-23.html Nazi Conspiracy & Aggression Volume I Chapter IX The Execution of the Plan to Invade Czechoslovakia<(Part 23 of 29)

A modern people and a modern state are today unthinkable without political troops. To these are allotted the special task of being the advance guard of the political will and the guarantor of its unity. This is especially true of the German folk-groups, which have their home in some other people's state. Accordingly the Sudeten German Party had formerly also organized its political troop, the Voluntary Vigilantes (Freiwilliger Selbstschutz), called 'FS' for short. This troop was trained essentially in accordance with the principles of the SS, so far as these could be used in this region at that time. The troop was likewise assigned here the special task of protecting the homeland, actively, if necessary. It stood up well in its first test in this connection, wherever in the fall crisis of 1938 it had to assume the protection of the homeland, arms in hand.

"After the annexation of the Sudeten Gau, the tasks of the FS were transferred essentially to the German student organizations as compact troop formations in Prague and Brunn, aside from the isolated German communities which remained in the second republic. This was also natural because many active students from the Sudeten Gau were already members of the FS. The student organizations then had to endure this test, in common with other Germans, during the crisis of March 1939 ***"

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"In the early morning hours of March 15, after the announcement of the planned entry of German troops in various localities, German men had to act in some localities in order to assure a quiet course of events, either by assumption of the police authority, as for instance in Brunn, or by corresponding instruction of the police president, etc. In some Czech offices, men had likewise, in the early hours of the morning, begun to burn valuable archives and the material of political files. It was also necessary to take measures here in order to prevent foolish destruction ***. How significant the many-sided and comprehensive measures were considered by the competent German agencies, follows from the fact that

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many of the men either on March 15 itself or on the following days were admitted into the SS with fitting acknowledgment, in part even through the Reichsfuehrer SS himself or through SS Group Leader Heydrich. The activities and deeds of these men were thereby designated as accomplished in the interest of the SS.

"Immediately after the corresponding divisions of the SS had marched in with the first columns of the German Army and had assumed responsibility in the appropriate sectors, the men here placed themselves at once at their further disposition and became valuable auxiliaries and collaborators.***" (2826-PS)

The current page on Selbstschutz only treats one of the meanings of the term. The one not treated is related to civil defense, or Luftschutz/Zivilschutz. Selbstschutz can be defined as the local self-help of the civil population and of local and national institutions and infrastructures against air raids and catastrophes. The term will probably be coined in the 1930s as part of the German preparations for the Second World War.

The German Selbstschutz was part of a comprehensive system of air-raid protection conceived by the Hitler government and which covered the civil population, industry and public administrations.

There are several forms of Selbstschutz: - the Selbstschutz of the local population, organised by air wardens and forming small first intervention squads, - the Selbstschutz of infrastructures (railways, post and telecommunications, waterways, police, SS) and of public bureaucracies (ministry of finance, for instance).

Besides its official function, air-raid protection, the Selbstschutz and its organisation, the Reichsluftschutzbund, had additional functions: - preparing the German population for war, - fostering the feeling of belongingness (Volksgemeinschaft), - controling the political opinion (through the air-wardens) in the city wards, - security: collaborating with the police and the Gestapo.

After the end of World War II the organisation was dissolved.

With the Cold War and German rearmement a new Selbstschutz organisation was created, denazified, based on the experiences of its forerunner and organised by the Bundesluftschutzverband (BLSV), later rebaptized Bundesverband für den Selbstschutz (BVS). One of its major activities were the training of the civil population in first aid, or the propaganda for constructing air-raid shelters.

With the end of the Cold War the BVS was dissolved in 1997 (legal source: Bundesgesetzblatt 1997 Teil I Seite 731) (see http://www.jura.uni-sb.de/BGBl/TEIL1/1997/19970731.1.HTML)

In Switzerland active self-help in catastrophes is a continuing issue, see http://www.bbk.bund.de/cln_027/nn_403144/sid_BF88BCD26A1BA720B334336F4E0F87E3/DE/02__Themen/13__Aus__undWeiterbildung/03__Seminarkategorien/Selbstschutz.html__nnn=true

In the coming weeks I shall add some text to the Selbstschutz article

[edit] NPOV

I added an POV tag because of statements such as: "In the Silesia region Selbstschutz militia engaged in attacks against Polish activists and newspapers, and harassed the local Polish population. Its organised units fought against the Polish national liberation movement in the Third Silesian Uprising aimed at abolishing German rule over Poles."

now come on, "National Liberation Movement", "abolishing German rule over Poles", LMAO, that is some of the most blatant POV pushing I have ever seen.

"Poles imprisoned in those camps (consisting of men, women and youth) in the majority were murdered in cruel ways"

Okay, seriously, what other type of people are there besides men, women and youth? unless Poles have an extra fourth type of human that no other group does(sarcasm), why is that which is in parenthese needed?

"In the interwar period German minority organisations in Poland such as Jungdeutsche Partei, Deutsche Vereinigung, Deutscher Volksbund, Deutscher Volksverband actively cooperated with Nazi Germany, through espionage, sabotage, provocations and political indoctrination."

you seem to like to leave out facts that clarify matters, in that all national gov'ts support its national groups outside of its own borders. so supporting clubs financially that strive to maintain the cultural heritage of their members is supporting terrorism now? So by your definition the Canadian_Polish_Congress is a terrorist Organization!!! --Jadger 09:26, 7 March 2006 (UTC)

Is the Canadian Polish Congress prepering arms in order to support Polish invasion, and making list of Canadians for execution ? Or are you suggesting that espionage, sabotage, provocations and political indoctrination is as you put it the cultural heritage of their members. Please don't be absurd. --Molobo 18:49, 9 April 2006 (UTC)

Since you only addressed one point, I guess you agree with the rest. Given the number of all-out and all-embracing reverts, the author's neutrality on the subject is at best questionable. I would like all the sources used translated so I can check on them just like on Polonophobia, where there was an enormous number of inaccuracies and bias thanks to him. I've made some more corrections now and included some information taken from the Das Erste article. Before you revert my version, try to give an explanation for every undone part before edit warring. The same goes for Space Cadet. Just because you started the article, it still isn't yours. I'm not letting you undo good and time-consuming work for some reason that you wouldn't like to state. Sciurinæ 18:47, 11 April 2006 (UTC) The article reads like there was only one Selbstschutz. They may have had the same name but the Das Erste source [1] doesn't imply it was the same organisation but the same description for the militiamen. Sciurinæ 19:43, 11 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Mennonite Groups

After adding this section, i realized it may have been a bit trivial, and being a Mennonite, i wouldn't be the one to judge that. If anyone has any strong opinions, feel free to voice them or make changes.MennoMan 23:30, 8 January 2007 (UTC)