Talk:Seikichi Iha

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He can run up you with his toes. Unreal. Tkjazzer 22:05, 21 April 2007 (UTC)

Actually, I have been a student of one of his high-ranking students for many years. I also trained directly under Iha Sensei for a few years, and currently train with him every few months. I'm well aware of his capabilities :) I just haven't dedicated the time to write the article. I've been laying the framework for Okinawan karate on Wikipedia. --Scott Alter 23:30, 21 April 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] shorin-ryu and shido-kan are linked separately in the article

I think it is important to link to these individually (or is it?), but what I think is most important is that we have the Shorin-ryu_Shido-kan linked in the main article and not just in the caption box. Your thoughts? Tkjazzer 00:05, 22 April 2007 (UTC)

Or should we make another article with Sensei Iha's own style. If so, I think we should have Shorin-ryu_Shido-kan and Beikoku Shido-kan Karate-do linked. Tkjazzer 00:07, 22 April 2007 (UTC)

First, you had Shoto-kan in the title, which is a totally different (non-Shorin-ryu) style. There is a link to Shorin-ryu Shido-kan in the first paragraph, but I agree with the placement of the second link. However, I disagree with separating Beikoku Shido-kan into a separate article at the current time. Currently, Beikoku is just an organization of dojos. It is not a separate style from Shido-kan. Iha is a student of Miyahira's, and Iha practices what his teacher teaches - Shido-kan. Out of respect to Miyahira, I do not think Iha would say he has his own style. This is why Gusukuma is not mentioned anywhere in the Shorin-ryu Shido-kan article. Gusukuma's influences on Iha deserve to me mentioned in Iha's article. If you want to make a page solely about the Beikoku association, you could do this, but might not have much unique content for that. Everything should be able to be mentioned in a proper place in the Shido-kan and Iha articles. --Scott Alter 00:50, 22 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] users willing to help on 2 requested articles (Iha and shorin-ryu shido-kan)

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  • re your request about help with Seikichi_Iha or Shorin-ryu_Shido-kan, I would be happy to help, and indeed have been meaning to take a look at doing a few martial arts projects, however I have a couple of projects at the moment which are still ongoing. As soon as I finish those, I will be glad to help. Let me know if there are any other martial arts pages that need work too. Rac fleming 06:37, 23 April 2007 (UTC)
  • I'll check back on them for formatting and such, but I dont know much about Okinawan martial arts. VanTucky 01:59, 23 April 2007 (UTC)
  • As asked, I will do my best on the two articles that you requested for extension. I, myself, am not Japanese, and I do not have an excellent idea of Japanese martial arts than a native Japanese. But, I will try my best to improve the article with the knowledge that I have, and it is a pleasure to work with you in Wikipedia. Merci beacoup. Orthodoxy 04:10, 23 April 2007 (UTC)


Tkjazzer 06:40, 23 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] soke?

I got this post on my wall a day or so ago. I don't know if it should be incorporated or not.

" -Ok i could try but i don't no anything about Seikichi_Iha or Shorin-ryu_Shido-kan. For you minor corection, in Okinawan Karate, title for 10th Dan is Grandmaster Sōke.." Tkjazzer 06:57, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

In Shorin-ryu Shido-kan, we do not use the title Soke. In fact, we just refer to Iha as Sensei (not even Hanshi). Using titles comes from modern and American karate systems influences on martial arts. It was not used traditionally, which is Shido-kan is trying to stay. --Scott Alter 14:34, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isshin-ryu

I think this is the style of kobudo Iha sensei teaches on tuesday and thursday nights. Can someone verify this? I would like to eventually see the kobudo lineage posted and the important students of the specific kobudo teachers. I think Oshiro is another one in the US who teaches the same style? Is he in California? Does he have a website? Tkjazzer 15:43, 21 July 2007 (UTC)

I think it is actually Yamanni_ryu. Any confirmation? Tkjazzer 15:51, 21 July 2007 (UTC)

Iha himself does not teach the weapons classes at his dojo. While Iha does know how to use weapons, he does not teach them or talk much about them. Iha only focuses on teaching Shido-kan. Isshin-ryu is a style of karate and not weapons. The style practiced at Iha's dojo is not Yamanni ryu. Iha started his own association (Ryukyu-Ocho Shurite Kobujutsu Association) in 2003, which is what is followed. There is no hierarchy of instructors in the US, and I'm not sure about in Okinawa. Occasionally, Okinawans hold weapons seminars in the US for Iha's students, but I do not think there is a formal system. I don't know anything about Yamanni ryu, but it appears to be one of the few kobudo-only systems of martial arts - which would belong at Comparison of kobudo styles. --Scott Alter 21:13, 23 July 2007 (UTC)

I talked with someone at the dojo, and they said the weapons class was Yamanni ryu. Are you sure? Tkjazzer 16:25, 26 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Japanese script

Done. --Nightshadow28 05:59, 29 September 2007 (UTC)

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