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Ongoings is not a noun. It probably isn't even a word. Perhaps "goings on" would be better for this, the "Did You Know?" section of the Parish Newsletter.

Contents 1 Community Spirit 2 Steve Willis 3 Sedgley in the news 4 Montys a chain??? 5 Lack of References

[edit] Community Spirit

"Much interest is drawn from the 'little England' attitude from locals - there are still strong rural sensibilities, as well as a lack of traditional aptitude for further or higher education. The Ellowes Hall Foundation School serves much of the population of the area for secondary education, the insular nature of the community might well explain the poor perfomance of the school in connection with the relevant affluence of the area."

What?! Much interest? Where? This is an encyclopedia - it should contain facts and references. "might well explain"? Either it does or it doesn't (it doesn't) - this isn't some kind of personal notebook. This poor performance of Ellowes Hall is probably due to poor management of the school, rather than the 'insular nature' that you suggest, but I'm merely guessing. I suggest you look up weasel words. --D.elwell 21:49, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

"In terms of the future, Dudley borough's growing population, as well as planned transport/light rail links to the booming Birmingham, east of the borough, will no doubt increase Sedgley's status as a commuter town, rather than an 'overgrown village'.""

This is simply not true. There are no light-rail links planned in the Sedgley area - the only light-rail link planned in the Midlands is an extension of the Midland Metro from Wednesdbury to Brierley Hill (and a small extension in Birmingham City Centre). If you know different, supply references. --D.elwell 21:49, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

I think you'll find that they meant the rail links from the DUDLEY BOROUGH to Birmingham, not from SEDGLEY to Birmingham.

[edit] Steve Willis

Hi there. I'm removing the information about Steve Willis again. He isn't notable, and I'm still very suspicious that 82.37.179.220 is actually him (along with EmmaWaldren and VickyRoper). Basically for three reasons :

1. The anon seems keen to add essentially promotional material about him
2. The anon's IP traces back to blueyonder - the ISP for Steve Willis' website
3. The anon seems keen to remove references to the Imperial units system, and one of the few weblinks on Steve Willis' site is to the UK Metric Association

These are obviously all circumstantial points, and the addition of spam alone is enough to keep me deleting. But I thought I'd better elaborate somewhat. Cheers, --Plumbago 13:14, 20 September 2006 (UTC)

Hello, My name is Emma, and I am new to this, so very sorry if I'm not doing this right, I would just like to clarify the following points. I am not connected in any way to Steve Willis, I have been studying Media at Sandwell College, and Steve Willis was mentioned as part of the course. I just thought that he is someone that we can hear on the radio and therefore takes part of the Sedgley history. The reason he was mentioned in the class was that he plays the "Angelus" before his show, which is very rare in this country. Hope I explained my point. Emma EmmaWaldren 16:16, 20 September 2006 (UTC)

OK Emma, I'll take you at your word for this. However, I'm still going to delete the text you've reinserted. There are lots of facts true about any given town or place, but they need to be notable to merit an entry in the Wikipedia, and I'm just not convinced that Steve Willis is. That he isn't notable enough to even have his own article suggests that mentioning him in another article is unnecessary. As an aside, he's only one of probably a dozen or so DJs on a community radio station (that, I note, doesn't have an article on it), none of whom have an article about themselves. That he's also not in the best timeslot (6pm, on a Sunday?) points towards other more deserving cases. Regarding Angelus, notice that the article talks about radio stations around the world in general terms; a specific example from a local community channel in one part of the world does not need mentioning in this article. Period. However, all that said, it's great that you're being bold in your edits to the Wikipedia - please continue to do so, but be aware of notability issues and the appropriateness of information for different articles. Cheers, --Plumbago 16:35, 20 September 2006 (UTC)

Hi Plumbago, thank you for your kind reply. It did leave me a little deflated as this was my first ever contribution. However, I see your point, and thank you for taking the time to educate me on how this thing works. Hope to chat with you again in the future. EmmaWaldren 18:16, 21 September 2006 (UTC)

Not a problem. And don't let my grouching put you off editing. There are plenty of Wikipedia guidelines to help new users such as yourself (try here for starters), but you can probably pick it up from reading articles and conforming to their style and notability criteria. Have fun editing! Cheers, --Plumbago 12:52, 22 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Sedgley in the news

The anecdotes listed in this section seem pretty unencyclopaedic and of marginal interest or notability. Any objections to its removal? DWaterson 23:47, 19 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Montys a chain???

I know the owner of Monty's and no way is it a chain of bars, he has other business`s. But on paper he doesn't even own Monty's due to past errors... ;)

[edit] Lack of References

There are no citations for any of the information in this article. I've added the {{Unreferenced}} template to it. I will try and find references for as much as possible but will remove anything that can't be verified in line with the requirements of WP:VERIFY. - X201 08:45, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

I would also like to comment on the lack of references particularly with regard to this statement :"A council housing estate was built at the foot of Sedgley Beacon in the interwar years and named the Beacon Estate. It is now one of the most deprived and crime-ravaged housing estate in the Black Country." Using phrases such as "crime-ravaged" without a reference makes this sound almost like a statement of opinion. Although i do not disagree with this statement, i do not think it is appropriate. I have not deleted it now but i think it should be unless a reference is provided. 134.220.201.58 (talk) 12:15, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

Agreed. Not just that section but the article as a whole is in a very poor state, especially when compared to anything in Geography Project - Featured Articles which is the standard which all articles should aim for. - X201 (talk) 13:23, 29 November 2007 (UTC)