Talk:Sedan (car)

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[edit] Concerns

This article claims that the sedan is the most common configuration. I don't know of any statistics, but I'd say that, certainly in Europe, the hatchback is just as common. If anyone has statistics or can clarify this in some other way then please tell me. If not, then I'll probably edit it to say that the sedan is one of the most common configurations. 999 11:26, 26 May 2004 (UTC)

The photograph of "Tata Indigo" in the article is not a sedan but a station wagon variant of the car called "Tata Indigo Marina", if observed closely one can see the letters "SW" on the front number plate in the photo for "Station Wagon".. The photo has to be changed.

—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 202.68.145.230 (talkcontribs). On 12:37, February 20, 2006.

[edit] 2-door sedan

I've added a merge proposition for the 2-door sedan article, it more or less says the same thing as the 2-door sedan section. Alternatively, we could merge the section into that article; however, 2-door sedan is the only specific type of sedan to have its own article. --Varco 22:13, 16 March 2006 (UTC)

Just finished the merge. --Hetar 01:57, 24 March 2006 (UTC)
I called it Two-door sedan in the article now, too, bringing in some consistency and trying to avoid sentences that start with 2. —Camaro96 06:40, 25 March 2006 (UTC).

[edit] Disambiguation

denomination

sedan should leed to the disambiguation. its utterly ignorant to think the car would be the first thing to look up. a wellknown battle took place there and its a big city.--Tresckow 15:00, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

I disagree. I think most people looking for the French town would go to Sedan, France, and anyone looking for the battle would go to Battle of Sedan. Calling it a big city is a stretch, its own article states that it is only a town with 20,000 people. More people will probably know what a sedan car is than what happened at the Battle of Sedan. -Varco 18:05, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

maybe in the us but no british, australian or anyone in the rest of the world knows what a sedan is. so general information and not specificly american should be emphasized. at least sedan should bring you tto the disambiguation.--Tresckow 13:35, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

Sounds like sour grapes.
I disagree with Tresckow and agree with Varco--true, a Brit may not know what a sedan is, but in that case s/he would look up "saloon", which would not be ambiguous at all. So, the only question is North Americans looking up sedan, and frankly, I hadn't heard of Sedan, France before reading this. And when looking up places, unless it's someplace known worldwide like Paris or Tokyo, I put the country name in after the city name. I think the other uses link at the top of the article is the perfect solution for those looking for Sedan, France and getting the car style instead. Jrbbopp 14:28, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Changes

Regarding the edits by Racky pt (talk)

  • Headings and subheadings are changed only after careful consideration - See: Manual of Style#Sections and headings
  • The "See also" section should not be expanded. It is not to be a collection of internal links (except for disambiguation pages when an article title is ambiguous, and for structured lists to assist with the organisation of articles) - See WP:NOT#LINK
  • Regarding the comment "Forget history, who needs?" -- Please recall that Wikipedia is a free content, multilingual encyclopedia written collaboratively by contributors around the world. That also means explaining the history and origin of the word "sedan". What better way to illustrate the first use of the word by showing a the drawing of object that was called "sedan". This adds more to the encyclopedia than yet another picture of a modern day 4-door automobile. Thank you - CZmarlin 17:10, 31 May 2007 (UTC)
Carry on good work about history. What i see is there is little about trends in contemporary sedans. all the pics are of olden days. also visitor should not end up in article, he should find ways to navigate. hence i wished to expand see also, you removed hatchback also -not acceptable. as for current trend suv sales are falling and sedan and hatchback are coming to prominence and make for most of market share in developing countries. also not much about design details of sedan like FF and FR layout(not even mentioned). such contemporary info is missing which are more important than history. Racky pt 06:07, 4 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Unreferenced crap

These sections were unreferenced. No such thing called S M L XL nor XXL sedan exists on this earth. pasting the code here.

[edit] Small sedans

Sedan body styles on smaller cars are now less popular in Europe after the hatchback revolution during the 1970s. In the U.S. and many developing countries notchback sedans like the Volkswagen Jetta retain popularity.

The first major European manufacturer to phase out sedans in favour of hatchbacks was Renault, who introduced the hatchback (Renault 4) in 1961. In the case of Renault, the only sedan offered is the Megane; rival Fiat actually does not offer a sedan model in its European range at all.

On the other hand, the Japanese and Korean automakers continue to offer compact sedans as a popular body design for consumers in a range of brands and models sold in world markets.

1986 Oldsmobile Ninety Eight. Note the formal, upright stance that was popular in the 1980s.
1986 Oldsmobile Ninety Eight. Note the formal, upright stance that was popular in the 1980s.

[edit] Large Sedans

The 3-box sedan body style is still used on large and luxury cars. The hatchback feature has been notably unsuccessful in penetrating this segment worldwide. Instead, the angle of the rear window has been steadily increasing, as seen on the Audi A6, making many modern sedans resemble fastback sedans.

DO NOT ADD without a valid reference. small and large are there in any thing. keep crap away Ali mehmood zaki 14:00, 12 July 2007 (UTC)