Talk:Security police

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Wow, was this a complete page rewrite. AND it lost out on the original definition.--68.32.11.74 17:33, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Term/title

Needs some headings or something to make it more reader friendly and wiki. QUESTION: Does this include "company police"? For example Henry Ford's strikebreaking thugs? Is this term in common usage in the US? I watch a lot of Yankee TV and movies, and its not a familiar term. Seems to be a catch all for non-regular cops.Bobanny 08:14, 5 October 2006 (UTC)

I agree - see my further comments below. Peet Ern (talk) 05:14, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
PS - Some in line references to where the term is used might help. Peet Ern (talk) 05:19, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Assessment

Although the length of this entry suggests it is an article rather than a stub, I have given it that tag because this needs a complete overhaul. At present, it is little more than scattered bits of information that are not clearly connected to the topic. Some specific problems:

  • More than half of the article is about Los Angeles organizations, the contents of which has little to do with the topic "Security Police." E.g., California State law regarding peace officers working off duty as security guards.
  • Sentences such as By 1993 when RTD became MTA. are not complete sentences. Numerous other technical writing errors make this a confusing read.
  • Two full paragraphs are devoted to the MTA police, which "is a defunct agency" according to the article. If it's defunct, why is it even here (and what does RTD stand for)? Perhaps if there were a general history section, its mention might be warranted, but not in the current structure.
  • The article goes into obscure details, such as the structure and training of specific agencies' officers, yet does not clearly define what "Security Police" refers to. They are, for example, "usually" employed by government. So what makes them different from any other policing body? Why is the MTA police included and not the LAPD? Conversely, what makes security police different from run of the mill security guards?

There are other problem areas, but the above suggestions could serve as a starting point for making this article comprehensible. The absence of sources to me suggests that finding sources to base this article on should be the first step in making it an acceptable entry.Bobanny 17:47, 4 November 2006 (UTC)

I'm going to go through this and take a look at it. Since most of us in the LE WikiProject are UK Constable or Special, and I seem to be the only person who's career security, I'll see if I can figure out what's going on and broaden it a bit.

I can either start a rewrite or write the answers to the questions posed above here... Suggestions? Pyrogen 15:26, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

IMO, a rewrite would make more sense to me because it appears that the problems have to do with the topic not being conceived with much thought in the first place, and now it lacks clarity and structure. Defining security police is the first place to start, but that would be hard to do with what's currently in the article.Bobanny 17:08, 2 December 2006 (UTC)
I did another pass on this and it hurts my head. I'll take at it soon enough, though. Ow, whoever wrote this just mangled things together, it looks like. Pyrogen 21:46, 2 December 2006 (UTC)
I hear ya. It looks like it was excess that was carved off from other articles - someone's delinquent daughter article >;) Bobanny 03:56, 3 December 2006 (UTC)
It still looks like a mangle. In my opinion it is bad enough to be labelled negatively encylcopedic. The term security police on reading this seems to more idiomatic and coloquial than anything formal. There is as far as I am aware no general type of LEA of security police. There are public safety and by-law enforcement agencies such as transit police, and protective security agencies providing close personal protection, etc.
An appropriate dewrite might be to turn the article into a history of the term security police, if it really is a notable one, and refer to main articles about LEAs which might have been referred to as security police from time to time.
Peet Ern (talk) 04:58, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Tag removal

How do you know that security police do not exist elsewhere? →James Kidd (contr/talk/email) 23:04, 15 January 2007 (UTC)