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Here are some tasks you can do: Copyedit: Lead seems strong but it falls apart after that. Cleanup: Methodologies section Clearify demarcations between Computer and Physical Security engineering Citations for the Qualifications sect.

[edit] Mailing lists appropriate?

I am a member of the [PracticalSecurity] Mailing List, which deals with security aspects of system design. This is not a promotional mailing list, but a professional one. Any opinions on whether or not it should be included in this page? Lohat 14:37, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Engineering

The use of the word "engineering" is debatable as "Security engineering" is not a field that is taught in engineering schools

But the theory and practices are taught in a variety of Security courses. Security engineering does involve design principals and esthetics, the same as any Structural Engineers program would. This is not a NEW term, and is well accepted in the Security field. Exit2DOS2000^•T•C• 03:22, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

Agree - there are real job titles for Security Engineers - see Bureau of Diplomatic Security Mikebar 13:10, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

The word "engineering" is also debatable because almost no one in the security engineering field has an engineering degree. The result has been that practice of security engineering has become ad-hoc, best-effort and lacking a formal basis. Structural engineers can build you a bridge that won't fall, few security "Engineers" can pull that off. None of the certifications offered really require enough depth of knowledge to practice competently in the field. I know, I R one. John (talk) 01:59, 4 January 2008 (UTC)