Talk:Section 377A of the Penal Code (Singapore)

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[edit] Should this page be merged with 'Criminal law of Singapore'?

I think this page should be merged with Criminal law of Singapore. Comments? Jacklee 09:42, 22 December 2006 (UTC)

Perhaps for specific sections which warrant more detail, they can exist as seperate articles?--Huaiwei 10:48, 22 December 2006 (UTC)

That's a good point. I don't particularly like the title of the article though – it's inaccurate because the article talks about both section 377 and section 377A of the Penal Code, which are separate though related provisions. What about changing it to something like 'Sections 377 and 377A of the Penal Code (Singapore)', or 'Unnatural offences in the Penal Code (Singapore)', which is how they are classified in the Penal Code? Also, the reference should be to the 'Penal Code (Singapore)' rather than the 'Singapore Penal Code', as this is how other Singapore Acts of Parliament are referred to (see, for instance, 'Misuse of Drugs Act (Singapore)' and 'Women's Charter (Singapore)'). Jacklee 03:43, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

I've renamed this article 'Sections 377 and 377A of the Penal Code (Singapore)', following the naming convention used for Singapore statutes used in Wikipedia. Jacklee 00:40, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Lesbians?

Further, by a stretch of the imagination, penetrative lesbian sex via the use of implements like dildoes, fingers, or the tongue could theoretically be criminalised by this law although historically, no act of lesbian sex has ever been charged under section 377.

This stretch of imagination isn't referenced. My main concern is the reference to lesbians. While I don't doubt that lesbians will probably be treated more "harshly" then heterosexuals, it seems to me likely that it would be regarded as a criminal act even for a heterosexual couple to engage in such acts if it doesn't lead to coitus. Also wouldn't a dildo probably technically be an indecent device or whatever anyway? Nil Einne 11:22, 11 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] NPOV

"it is feared by some that it would take another 22 years for the next review." sounds a little loaded to me, or am I over-interpreting the NPOV policy? Sentri 18:10, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

I'd take that phrase out. It's just a rather sensational statement based on the fact that the last major review of the Penal Code before the present one in 2007 was about 20 years ago. Cheers, Jacklee 21:34, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Renaming of article


[edit] YouTube and other links

Hi, Groyn88, you recently updated "Section 377A of the Penal Code (Singapore)" with links to Parliamentary debates broadcast on Singapore TV that were uploaded on to YouTube. I think these videos were uploaded on to YouTube in breach of copyrights held by the Parliament of Singapore and MediaCorp, and as such it is against Wikipedia policy to link to such videos: see "Wikipedia:Copyrights#Linking to copyrighted works" ("[I]f you know that an external Web site is carrying a work in violation of the creator's copyright, do not link to that copy of the work"). I'd therefore suggest that you remove the links to YouTube and link, if possible, to news reports about the Parliamentary proceedings. — Cheers, JackLee talk 16:17, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

You've also just added a link to a scan of a Straits Times article at http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd30/SiGNeL001/Scanned%20articles/Singapore/STArticle071205a.jpg. I'm afraid this is a clear breach of copyright. You can mention the article in a footnote and link to a website authorized by Singapore Press Holdings that contains the article (if one exists), but you must not link to a website that is acting in disregard of copyright laws. Could you please take steps to remove the links to this website and to YouTube as soon as possible? Thanks. — Cheers, JackLee talk 16:03, 2 February 2008 (UTC)

It's been almost two weeks, but the problematic links were not dealt with so I've removed them. — Cheers, JackLee talk 01:36, 15 February 2008 (UTC)