Talk:Secondary Security Screening Selection

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[edit] Needs an overhaul and cleanup

I'm not sure how much of this aritcle is based on fact. Citations are needed for much of it. I'll probably removed incorrect information like TSA agent conducting ID since the TSA agents don't normally do the ID checks. I also belive that the SSSS requirements are the same at airports where the TSA is not staffing the checkpoints. Vegaswikian 01:15, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

SSSS criteria are not uniformly executed at all airports -- I have only been repeatedly selected at Toronto Pearson Airport, where I am a member of both CanPass and NEXUS, which purpose is to have cleared travellers with eye scans. I have NEVER been selected for SSSS at any other airport that I have travelled through. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.228.70.221 (talk) 01:12, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] criteria that sometimes generate a SSSS"

Looking at the list of "criteria that sometimes generate a SSSS" in the "How does it work?", that list simply amounts to "random", surely? For example, the three items "Passengers traveling alone"/"2 passengers"/"Passengers traveling as a group", taken together, just means "all passengers." Making that list, if accurate, a complete waste of space. Jacob 14:45, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

  • I would agree. If we can not source that data, it probably needs to be deleted. Vegaswikian 19:18, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
  • Agreed again. I was just about to post this. Travelling alone, 2 passengers, or as a group covers everyone on an airplane. The list seems to be superfluous..—Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.144.173.199 (talk • contribs)

As I have been repeatedly identified for SSSS at only Toronto Pearson Airport (traveling through any other airport I have never been selected), a cleanup to the criteria as to HOW the selections are made needs to be undertaken -- since I am a member of both CanPass and NEXUS, and as such, a known and cleared traveller, this shouldn't be happening. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.228.70.221 (talk) 01:07, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

A link of a blog entry with some more information on SSSS here. Information also in the comments on the same page. Don't know what's true and what's not. Never been SSSSed an mostly flying in Europe. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.209.79.241 (talk) 21:14, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Needs to be removed

I w/o disclosing myself would recommend that this page be removed as all information given except "Reservations Within 24hrs and One Way Destination" is wrong. Additionally, It is advised to visit TSA.Gov for more info, as "complete" information regarding Selectee Checkpoint Program cannot be disclosed to public by law. - Guest/EWR —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.172.209.80 (talk • contribs)

I think that this section is important to be retained. I have been repeatedly identified for SSSS, and this section has been very informative to me to understand what I have perceived as discriminatory selection is actually based on the multi-variate criteria that applies to me. Unfortunately, since I am a member of both CanPass and NEXUS, and as such, a known and cleared traveller, this shouldn't be happening. Perhaps they need to modify the criteria to exclude those cleared travellers participating in CanPass and NEXUS. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.228.70.221 (talk) 00:56, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Dubious

I believe that the statement, "Passengers who carry no luggage (or carry a lot of luggage)." is dubious. How could a policy be enacted that applies only to people who carry no luggage, or a lot of luggage. What would be classified as a lot then? I believe this topic should be removed from further edits of the article.

Not to mention a lot of the criteria already listed, at least the ones without sources.

well, if somebody has no luggage, its easier for that person to escape at the destination (think of hijacker, suicider....), if a person has more luggage, think of that maybe all that luggage doesnt belong to him/her. theres enough stupid people (especially older, naive ones) that would take a suitcase from somebody else. it happened just a few month ago at an airport in europe that an older couple took a bag from a "young man" they just met at the airport. he said that this bag belongs to his sister in usa and it would be too expensive to send it over. the couple took the suitcase because they trusted him! a security agent was watching them and in the end everything came out. luckily there were only clothes inside, but who knows, maybe that "young man" could have been part of a terrorist organisation, and he just checked out if it was easy enough to give somebody else some extra luggage... —Preceding unsigned comment added by A lil wee tiny bee (talk • contribs) 16:35, 17 February 2008 (UTC)


Lasdlt (talk) 23:37, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

No references have been provided for many of the criteria claimed to be used. Since they have been tagged that way for a while, I think it is reasonable to simply removed those without references. An editing note should be left alerting editors that adds to that section require a reference or they will be deleted. Vegaswikian (talk) 23:56, 8 January 2008 (UTC)
OK, I deleted the unreferenced ones and added the comment. Vegaswikian (talk) 00:03, 9 January 2008 (UTC)