Talk:Seattle Center Monorail

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I wasn't aware that a definate decision to demolish the old line had been made. Any info? --drew1718 12:47, 9 Jul 2004 (UTC)

http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/national/apus_story.asp?category=1110&slug=BRF%20Seattle%20Monorail and http://www.elevated.org -- since the new monorail will be going down 5th Avenue where the old one currently is, it appears the old one will come down if the new one is built. --Lukobe 17:20, 9 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Thanks, though the news saddens me. --drew1718 20:25, 11 Jul 2004 (UTC)

The monorail reopened on December 16, 2004, with one train (the "red train") in service. I'm too much of a noob to try and edit that into the article, though.

One of my lients works on it; 'tis dead Daemon8666 04:25, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] arithmetic

i put the $200 per year stat as when people see 2% they think...ehhh who cares. when they see $200 per year (and much more for many people) that's when it really hits how much 2% is.

in person i'd point out that if all five monorail lines were ever built and each cost about the same we'd hit $1,000 per person per year ($4,000 per year if you own a low-end bmw), but that *is* probably too much math.

-Justforasecond 05:31, 23 December 2005 (UTC)

Hopefully no hard feelings on the 70/75 year bit, I just wanted to make sure we had a source for that figure included. As for the 2% bit, sometimes people forget about the accelerated depreciation tables that are used. The rate you pay drops >5% each year down to a very small value. But turns out it's not FMV like I thought. When the $30 tab law passed the rate for tabs on a 1974 VW Beetle went up, they had previously been $18 or so.
There are a lot more details at the state DoLicensing's Monorail page. I'm going to do another update based on the information available there. Although I may do it over in Green Line (Seattle) since the tax is really a lot more pertinent to that than to the existing (but out of service) Seattle Center Monorail line.
wac tc 06:07, 23 December 2005 (UTC)

Ugh this is more complicated than I thought. It's quoted as 1.4% on that site though I was thought it was higher, apparently I was wrong. On the other hand the depreciation tables seem to be a lot higher than FMV-- cars typically drop half their value in 5 years, but that chart has them at 73% of their MSRP after five years....and who *ever* pays MSRP for a car? Maybe we could just quote the $130 number? --

Right now the average annual monorail license charge is $130 annually. "Some people pay a penny, and there are two (people) that pay $12,500," Buchter said.[1]

-Justforasecond 17:08, 23 December 2005 (UTC)

I've added this information to the Green Line (Seattle) page along with the SMP board estimate for when people will get to stop paying the tax (2006-2007). wac(talk contrib) 21:11, 23 December 2005 (UTC)

Just a thought. But shouldn't we mention the economic impact of the monorail. Seems like Westlake mall is taking a beating with it out of commision. Plus, it should be mentioned that it carries something like 17,000 (yeah, I don't believe it either) people a day. Don't make my drunk ass look this shit up, cause I might.--drew1718 11:31, 24 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Monorail running again

I would edit the entry myself, but don't recall whether it started running in July or August.Spazquest 05:30, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Voters and the Demise of the Green Line

Hey, I thought the voters of Seattle voted down the continuation of the Monorail Project during the same election period as the presidential elections in November 2004, and not November of 2005. I'm referring to a statement made towards the end of the page. Where's the citation? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 67.160.45.229 (talk • contribs) 02:59, August 14, 2006.

Added citation showing November 8, 2005 as requested.--Bobblehead 15:45, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] 1910

[Apparently] a monorail was proposed in Seattle as early as 1910. The linked article has just a teaser on this; someone may want to follow it up. I imagine there are articles and maybe commercial or government documents from the time (or at least more than one picture). - Jmabel | Talk 00:05, 28 March 2008 (UTC)