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Contents 1 Delta Airlines SEA-DFW 2 Air Canada Access 3 Northwest KOA-SEA 4 Focus City 5 Default airport in Flight simulator 2004 6 Nonstop Destinations, Passenger Aircraft Serving and other edits 7 Alaska SEA-CMH 8 Lists destinations that aren't nonstop 9 Discontinued Service 10 NWA Focus City 11 "US ended airline deregulation" -> regulation 12 Gate assignments 13 Seperation of domestic/international flights 14 Vladivostok Air 15 Hainan Airlines 16 The map is outdated 17 Consensus on whether or not to include BOM and ICN as destinations for NWA

[edit] Delta Airlines SEA-DFW

I added Dallas as a destination from Seattle with Delta Airlines. I'm sure Delta Airlines offers this flight.

UPDATE ... Nevermind it's a codeshare flight with Alaska Airlines.

[edit] Air Canada Access

When I went through Seatac, for some reason, even though I was flying Air Canada, I was routed through United Airlines to check my baggage. My AC Flight Boarding pass was printed on a United Background. Anyone know why this is or was? I flew in 2004.-Delta Spartan 23:41, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

I'm guessing that Air Canada doesn't have facilities there. Airlines often have their partners handle services at some airports to save money. Since SEA is a major airport for United, they probably handle Air Canada's ground services. I've experienced the same situation flying KLM from Rome (handled by Alitalia) Dbinder 23:52, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

Air Canada is a Star Alliance partner with United. I believe United handles AC's ground operations at SEA. Aep 00:07, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Northwest KOA-SEA

I was looking at the current Northwest timetable and it shows a non-stop daily flight from KOA to SEA. But no service, non-stop or direct from SEA to KOA. Anyone know what is up? 24.113.22.73 07:10, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

Looking at [1] I see that NWA 094 from Kona (KOA) via Maui arrives at Seattle at 5.51a... Aep 17:45, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

I just looked at the Northwest Airlines timetable and here's the schedule I see. Flight 95 Minneapolis - Seattle - Maui. Flight 94 Maui - Kona - Seattle - Minneapolis. Both flights are on 757-300s, and the schedule is right for the same plane to make both flights.

If you are flying to Hawaii, I would suggest flying United or Hawaiian. A seat one inch wider does not sound like much, but it makes a huge difference in comfort on a 4+ hour flight.

[edit] Focus City

is SEA still a United Airlines focus city? KSEA 05:34, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

No, United focus cities are Los Angeles, San Francisco, Denver, Chicago, Washington Dulles and JFK. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Movieman899327 (talk • contribs) 17:38, August 21, 2007 (UTC).

uhhhh no....Los Angeles, San Francisco, Chicago-O'Hare, Denver, and Washington-Dulles are UA hubs and JFK is not even close to being a UA focus city (despite having 2 hub destinations). The only UA focus city is Tokyo-Narita. Bucs2004 (talk) 02:35, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Default airport in Flight simulator 2004

KSEA was made the default Airport in flight simulator 2004. Nothing else to be said about that. Nitweet 13:54, 17 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Nonstop Destinations, Passenger Aircraft Serving and other edits

I removed both the Nonstop Destinations and Passenger Aircraft Serving sections from the article. The destinations listed by each airline are non-stop so it’s redundant to have two sections listing the same information. The reason for removing Passenger Aircraft Serving section is that it has been discussed before that it would be too much work to keep up an accurate list of each aircraft each airline uses at each airport and such lists are currently not part of the standard airport layout from the Wikipedia:WikiProject Airports. Couple of other changes, US Airways no longer flies SEA-PIT at all, so I removed that listing. KSEA 08:27, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

• Just wanted to note that I re-added SEA-PIT because it has been stated by US Airways that this is to be a seasonal service, and is in fact returning this summer. NW036 17:39, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Alaska SEA-CMH

Please don't add Columbus as a destination served by Alaska Airlines from Seattle. There is no press release announcing a new route and the route is not listed in the online schedule on Alaska's website. In addition, it is highly unlikely that Alaska would add a route on such short notice given that just today they announced two new routes from Portland that are not starting on September 7th, 2007. KSEA 21:45, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Lists destinations that aren't nonstop

If you notice that Northwest Airlines lists Mumbai as a nonstop destination from Seattle that is incorrect. If you try to book a nonstop flight anytime of the week or year you make a stop over in Tokyo so I think it is unnessessary to list destinations that include stop overs because they aren't nonstop services.

Same with Aeromexico, they don't have service to Guadalajara; you must make a stopover in Mexico City, this is why I am taking off Mumbai and Guadalajara as destinations.

Also Seattle doesn't go to numerous destinations in Europe or East Asia, in Europe all they go to is London, Paris, Amsterdam, and Copenhagen; that isn't numerous destinations. In Asia they go to Tokyo, Seoul, and Taipei. Shanghai and Beijing haven't yet been accepted by the Chinese government so there for you can't count them as ligitement destinations until they are given the ok.

Agreed. Safesler 08:57, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

I don't think NW lists SEA-BOM or SEA-ICN as "nonstops", but they are "direct" and may meet criteria for inclusion. The governing rules here are WP:Airports, not SEA's website. For AM, it is clear that MEX is a domestic hub and any continuation of the flight number shouldn't be listed. But for NW, those hubs (NRT, AMS) are not domestic. HkCaGu (talk) 17:13, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Discontinued Service

Is there a need for the discontinued service section? This is inconsistent through different airports and in my opinion really isn't necessary. If it's deemed useful I'll add it to other airports as well. NW036 16:20, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

I agree with NW036...I also think that this section is unnecessary Sox23 19:50, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

Agee, it is not necessary KSEA 05:35, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

Would anyone have a problem if I removed it? Sox23 16:22, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

I wanted to ask here since we already started discussing this, but several other airports (SAN and RDU for example) have a similar section on past airlines. Any thoughts? I just see it as another inconsistency that should be spread or removed depending on what people think. NW036 21:26, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

NW036- you should probably bring this up at the discussion page for WP:Airports...I think this would be better posted there because users as a whole could see the topic in discussion rather than those just looking at the SEA talk page...in my opinion I think they should all be removed because they serve no purpose...Sox23 22:42, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] NWA Focus City

The Northwest Airlines timetable lists SeaTac as an International Gateway, so i'm adding the sentence back but changing it from Focus City to International Gateway. KSEA 04:24, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

International gateway is fine...probably because NWA has service to Amsterdam, Mumbai, Seoul-Incheon, and Tokyo-Narita. An international gateway is not the same as a focus city so what is in the article now is fine. I like your solution. Sox23 23:31, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] "US ended airline deregulation" -> regulation

"In 1978, the US ended airline deregulation." Shouldn't this be "regulation" instead of "deregulation"? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Dustywilson (talk • contribs) 21:29, 16 March 2007 (UTC).

[edit] Gate assignments

Is it necessary to list every gate assignment for every airline in every terminal? This seems a little excessive, not to mention subject to change. It assumes that every flight will park at the gate listed every day without interruption. LAX, PHL, JFK...none of these airports list the precise gates. I'm suggesting that they be removed. No offense to Beyondweird who listed them. Thedjb 00:40, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

I removed them. There's no need, they're unencyclopedic and subject to frequent change. DB (talk) 22:32, 22 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Seperation of domestic/international flights

I've noticed that at a few US airports (specifically JFK, EWR, SEA and LAX) some airlines domestic and international destinations are seperated. This is not set up in the standard form as set forth in the ProjectWiki Airport guide. Plus, when it's being done, it's inconsistent even within the airport page - i.e. DL and UA destinations being seperated at LAX, but AA and NW remaining intact. So, stop doing it. Thanks. Andrewb729 22:57, 15 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Vladivostok Air

Recently I have saw Anchorage listed as a destination for Vladivostok Air. I have removed it from the destination list saying that the flight from Seattle to Anchorage is cabotage. Today, one user readded it as a destination saying that "makes a stop in Anchorage". Should Anchorage be deleted from the list since it is only tech stop for the flight? Bucs2004 04:58, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

Depends on if somebody can actually buy a ticket from SEA-ANC on Vladivostok Air, or even if Vladivostok Air has the right to sell tix (US DOT is very strict). The flights are intended to depart to Russia, but have to make a stop in ANC (presumably for fuel?) Personally, I think only the 3 Russian destinations-Petropavlovsk-Kamchatsky, Vladivostok, and Yuzhno-Sakhalinsk should be listed. Sox23 07:20, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

• This service was supposed to commence summer 2007 (strictly from ANC to Vladivostok) but was canceled within 1 week of start date due to low booking numbers. It is my understanding, and I don't have a linkable source, that they have now opted to start the flight in SEA, with a stop in ANC for both pax and fuel with continuing, same plane, service to Vladivostok. Pax cannot book SEA-ANC, but they can book SEA-Vlad. and ANC-Vlad. Again, it's hard to say whether this will happen given the airline's last minute decision this summer to pull out. I wouldn't hold my breath.Thedjb 19:27, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Hainan Airlines

In the destinations list, Hainan Airlines shows that it no longer is awaiting governmant approval, is this correct??? Sea-Tac 03:36, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

I have readded "pending government approval" to Hainan Airlines as I have found no source that approval was granted. Bucs2004 (talk) 22:46, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

Hainan now received govt approval to fly SEA-PEK to begins June 9, 2008. Audude08 (talk) 19:24, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] The map is outdated

A new runway is being built, and the runway names have been changed. The new diagram can be found at http://www.naco.faa.gov/d-tpp/0713/00582AD.PDF. I don't know how to convert and upload it. Could someone else please do this? Thanks. 71.112.224.217 (talk) 04:36, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Consensus on whether or not to include BOM and ICN as destinations for NWA

Do we or do we not include them? Eventhough they stop at an NWA hub and use A332 aircraft on all four segments. Audude08 (talk) 23:25, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

we should not include them becuase they are not non-stop flights. You have to disembark the planes (I have flown SEA-NRT-ICN before). All thats the same is the flight number. --Airwaysim (talk) 00:42, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

Again we should not simply say "it's not non-stop" and exclude direct flights. Disembark alone shouldn't make an exclusion criterion either. What about the genuine direct like Continental Micronesia's Island Hopper (Guam to Honolulu) on which half the plane (one side) is emptied for security check at every stop (5 stops, 6 segments)? The determining factor should be "is it genuine direct" as expressed in WP:Airport. In my view, however, because NRT and AMS are NWA hubs, the "direct" designation is not genuine, and plus the evidence that they often don't use the same plane, should be reason enough to exclude BOM and ICN despite same aircraft type.HkCaGu (talk) 04:06, 14 March 2008 (UTC)