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"He embarrassingly admits he doesn't mind being considered the ladies' "bit of rough".[24]" I haven't changed this because i'm not sure, but it doesn't sound quite right to me; I think it is trying to say sean bean says he doesn't mind "being blablabla", but he is a bit embarassed about doing so, whereas as it reads now, it looks as though the person who wrote that sentence thinks that sean bean saying that is embarassing. If you agree or think I'm correct, change it - i'm not sure if i'm right or it's just personal preference Saccerzd 03:35, 5 November 2006 (UTC)


So... what's this Sharpe "in-joke" in The Lord of the Rings then? C'mon, surely articles can't be allowed to tease us like this! :-) Seriously, I'm not a Rings fan at all, but I do like Sharpe and since it's mentioned it'd be interesting to hear what it is. Otherwise, why mention it at all? Angmering 00:11, 4 Sep 2004 (UTC)

From IMDB Trivia for 'The Fellowship of the Ring': Sean Bean starred in a UK TV series as a soldier during the Napoleonic wars by the name of Richard Sharpe. He subsequently appeared in a series of commercials where he would allude to his earlier role, saying things like, "Sharpe idea". In this movie he continues the joke: after touching the Sword of Elendil he says, "Still Sharpe." 14:00, 7/10/04 Hammersfan

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[edit] Typecast?

Bean has been placed in the category typecast actors, please exaplin why.--nixie 13:17, 1 December 2005 (UTC)

He quite often is in Hollywood films. Like most british actors because no yank will play the bad guy. Any minor actor has to play more than his fair share of bad guys though. Personally I wouldn't count him as one. josh 20:32, 1 December 2005 (UTC)

Bean has said he was typecast by playing Major Richard Sharpe, and did not work for a year after the series finished in 1997.

[edit] The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion

As an in-joke, the secret order of elite warriors trained in the Akaviri style and answer only to the Emperor are called the "Blades".

How is this an in-joke? They were called that in morrowind as well.
Because Bean is a Sheffield United supporter. They are nicknamed the Blades. josh (talk) 19:37, 2 April 2006 (UTC)

Youngsters these days... Infact the Blades were already around in Daggerfall which came out in 1996, not that anybody remembers computer games from that long ago but still. Anyway it's not an in-joke of any kind, the Blades have long been a part of TES lore. Seek100 19:18, 17 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Trivia

Would it be relevant to mention the fact that he seems to land on roles where his characters die very often? It's somewhat of a joke in the fandom anyway. Here's a list of his roles, split up to show when he dies and when he doesn't --83.100.41.232 20:32, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

Bean dies more times than Charlton Heston!

[edit] England

Very little here about a prominant English actor. The Sheff Utd film deserves a mention, no?

[edit] GA passing

Despite having some gripes about the informaility of some of the titles, I belive this to be a very well written, sourced and presented article, worthy of GA standard. Try to fix those titles before you go for FAC. Good work everyone

†he Bread 03:41, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Second Wife

"In addition, he has been accused of being a chauvinist; this originated after his second wife claimed he watched too much football, spent too much time in the pub and left clothes about the house."

If that's grounds for divorce...good luck ever keeping a husband, lady.


[edit] Metal Gear Solid (2008)

Where's the reference for him being considered as Solid or Liquid Snake in the upcoming Metal Gear movie? I've never heard this.129.2.145.93 07:51, 8 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Sean Bean (boromir LOTR:ROTK)

He wasnt in lotr return of the king... it was only a "flashback" it wasnt taken again (or was it?) just copied it from the first movie (no?). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.108.16.48 (talk) 08:11, 30 September 2007 (UTC)

It's a flashback, copied and pasted from another clip...filmed, if I remember, while Sean Bean was still in New Zealand (thereby, technically, from FOTR. 22:19, 13 January 2008 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Menecairiel (talk • contribs)

[edit] Personal life

Okay, a couple of editors have removed the following info from the Personal life section: "Bean has claimed in interviews that he likes wearing diapers recreationally, stating, "I've worn a nappy to a bar before, but only the towelling ones. I find disposables like Pampers tend to chafe."[30][31]" Their reasons were that the info was "innaccurate" and/or "non-notable". Perhaps the info is currently worded incorrectly, but even if Bean only did this once to attract controversy, isn't that notable in itself? Especially if some magazine/website has decided to report it (I realize they were reporting Bean's admittal not the actual event). I'm not saying we shoud give the info undue weight by dedicating large sections of the article to it, but isn't an unusual and verifiable hobby/practical joke Bean practiced in public sufficiently notable for a single sentence of info? Coop41 (talk) 23:14, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

I'm probably being a bit lazy by just reverting it. I'm currently editing another article, reading a book and half watching film (who said men can't multi-task). The sentence as it stands suggests that he goes out drinking and saves himself from leaving the bar with some alternative underwear. The reports used don't help. More general phrasing on who he tries to shock people by wearing nappies and speedos would be better. I've tried to find the original article to get a better idea of context but they don't seem to have published it online. josh (talk) 23:42, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
I've reworded the sentence slightly to clarify that he wears them only for shock value. You're right that the original source would be preferable, but I think the ones we have are adequate. Coop41 (talk) 00:10, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

I haven't found this article, not even at the references listed. Is there a link to it? (Just that I seriously doubt it, coming from this actor. And if he said it, I doubt he actually meant it. Menecairiel (talk) 20:29, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

The article currently uses these two sources: Adult baby Bean at AskMen.com and Sean Bean Loves Dressing In Nappies at FemaleFirst. Neither of these are the original article/interview, just reports commenting on it. Obviously the original source would be perfect, but I think the current ones are enough to support the info that we have. Coop41 (talk) 22:18, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

But those two sources (or one, since it really is the same article by the same company, but on two different links) don't have any reference to the real source. No date for the interview or anything. How can we be sure it is information and not just rumours? Or, as I suppose it should be said, should we have it on here with so little to back it up? If there was an original interview/article, then I'd be the first to say keep it there. But for me, two reports by dubious sources (or source) doesn't seem to warrant having it on wikipedia. Menecairiel (talk) 00:06, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

Well, we've adjusted the article to say that he's only reported to do it, not that he's explicitly admitted to it. The sources certainly back that up. I still think it belongs, it's a minor but interesting detail (and I know being interesting isn't a valid argument, but it helps) and has a source to support the info presented. BTW, I removed the sentence you added about it being only a rumour; I think it violated WP:NOR because you were the one questioning the info, not the source. Coop41 (talk) 13:05, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Reliability of FHM

Wikipedia policy on Wikipedia:biographies of living persons is very clear on how to handle things like this:

  • "Material about living persons must be sourced very carefully. Without reliable third-party sources, it will violate the No original research and Verifiability policies, and could lead to libel claims.
  • "Material about living persons available solely in questionable sources or sources of dubious value should be handled with caution, and, if derogatory, should not be used at all in biographies of living people, either as sources or via external links (see above)."
  • "Editors should remove any contentious material about living persons that is unsourced, relies upon sources that do not meet standards specified in Wikipedia:Verifiability, or is a conjectural interpretation of a source (see Wikipedia:No original research). The three-revert rule does not apply to such removals if the information is derogatory. Content may be re-inserted only if it conforms to this policy."

So, the question that ought to be asked is simple: Is FHM reliable for the purposes of writing an encyclopaedic article about the actor Sean Bean? Ought we to trust their accuracy and their presentation of the material, ie. is it true, word for word, and has it been presented in its proper context? It's certainly controversial to claim Bean likes wearing nappies; merely saying that's what's been reported is not enough here. It needs to have been reported in a reliable source.

Even if Bean had said that, but was joking at the time, then we're still doing the article a disfavour by including it. --Kife 13:51, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

I'm sorry, I hadn't yet read the policy you are referring to. Yeah, fair enough, since Wikipedia policy is so strict with sources regarding living people then I guess I can't defend keeping the info. Coop41 (talk) 14:23, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

Fair enough, I agree. I (a person who seriously need to study the rules a bit more) think that was what was bothering me. Thanks, Kife and Coop41. Menecairiel (talk) 17:23, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Name inconsistencies

Two questions I have about this article:

  1. The spelling of Bean's birth name is given both as "Shaun" and "Shawn". Which should it be?
  2. There's an accent on the name used in the infobox: "Seán". Should this be there? --Kife 18:53, 14 January 2008 (UTC)
Sean's birth name is Shaun Mark Bean, the English spelling of the Irish name Sean. There is no accent in his name. Menecairiel (talk) 17:24, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
More to the point, he's never credited with an accented name, so it should go. Nick Cooper (talk) 17:31, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

Good. I took the risk of switching to "Shaun" and the accent-free "Sean" last night after running through credits and mentions of his birth name in the broadsheets (or what used to be broadsheets) but it's good to have further backing on that. --Kife 18:03, 15 January 2008 (UTC)