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Fair?

The comment added to end the Doire/other name for derry dispute is unfair because it sounds as though he only calls it Derry because he is a Nationalist and that Derry is not the name of the place.The name is , of course, Derry.--Play Brian Moore 16:05, 8 September 2005 (UTC)

I don't think that's right. According to United Kingdom law, its official name is Londonderry. I assume that Wikipedia recognises that United Kingdom law prevails in Northern Ireland and will do so unless and until Northern Ireland democratically and legitimately secedes from the United Kingdom. Of course, it is the right of anyone, from Londonderry or not, to call it Derry, just as Kingston upon Hull is often called Hull, but that doesn't make either Derry or Hull the real name. Poetlister 16:36, 8 September 2005 (UTC)

Have to agree with Poetlister on this one. We all like to call it Derry but the official position is clear. Nice pic though Poet :) --216.52.22.131 09:15, 9 September 2005 (UTC)

Here I know that no matter what I say I'm wrong becaus I'm a Fenian but is the City of Derry not called Derry.That being the place that nationalist Mr.Heaney is from.--Play Brian Moore 23:00, 9 September 2005 (UTC)

Actually, he's from the county, which under the compromise reached at Talk:Derry is under County Londonderry in Wikipedia. That said, I have no objections to either "County Derry" or "County Londonderry" being used in this article, either one is fine by me. Demiurge 10:12, 10 September 2005 (UTC)

Exactly right, but the compromise concensus for "Londonderry" should be used in this and other articles unless a different concensus emerges. --216.168.230.197 17:06, 10 September 2005 (UTC)

well An Daingean is the real name of Dingle agreed by the Irish Government but wiki has chosen to overlook The Facts.Derry is a far more common name and Seamus is a Catholic Nationalist so it really should be called Derry.--Play Brian Moore 00:42, 11 September 2005 (UTC)

According to United Kingdom law, its official name is Londonderry. Well according to Irish law, Dingles official name is An Daingean but wiki has named the article in relation to this town to Dingle because it is far more common. Derry is also far more common so it should be used in this article. I can change Dingle back to an Daingeann if you wish. Also Heaney is a Catholic Nationalist so his article should have derry in it.--Play Brian Moore 19:49, 25 September 2005 (UTC)

Two wrongs don't make a right. It may be the case that Dingle should be called something else. Is that any reason to have the wrong name for Londonderry? Poetlister 19:53, 25 September 2005 (UTC)

it is'nt wrong. City is Derry and Derry is a far more common name. He is a Catholic,Nationalist. He would have it as Derry. Let the baby(me) have his botle(derry).--Play Brian Moore 20:06, 25 September 2005 (UTC)

I have to agree with Play Brian Moore, I feel that Heaney as a republican would have prefered Derry and not the anglo alternative. Let the bottle have his baby. Tunney 21:26, 27 September 2005 (UTC)