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[edit] SURVIVAL RATE???
Only a very small proportion of them (usually .001%) will be successful
Is it really 0.001% survive, or is it 0.001 times the total hatched survive? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 63.211.201.174 (talk) 06:30, 22 October 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Captialisation
personally I'd capitalise all the names, like the birds, but I'm no reptile buff, so I've just made it consistent. jimfbleak 15:54 25 May 2003 (UTC)
- They don't capitalize at [http://www.seaturtleinc.com/turtles.html
http://www.seaturtleinc.com/turtles.html] in the body of their paragraphs, so maybe it is correct as is. - Bevo 02:35, 18 Aug 2003 (UTC)
==Links==--81.167.82.195 14:59, 12 September 2007 (UTC)--81.167.82.195 14:59, 12 September 2007 (UTC)--81.167.82.195 14:59, 12 September 2007 (UTC)--81.167.82.195 14:59, 12 September 2007 (UTC)--81.167.82.195 14:59, 12 September 2007 (UTC)--81.167.82.195 14:59, 12 September 2007 (UTC) not too sure google image links are appropriate. Christopher Mahan 00:04, 12 Nov 2003 (UTC)
- What's your reasoning about the appropriateness issue? Bevo 01:02, 12 Nov 2003 (UTC)
I'd like to add a link to SWOT - The State of the World's Sea Turtles which allows for additional reading on all sea turtle species and answers many of the questions that people have posed here that may not be addressed in the Wikipedia article. What does everyone think about the validity of this link?
[edit] Immortal
I heard sea turtles are immortal; that they don't expire naturally but must be felled by injury or disease. Is this true? Kent Wang 00:42, 12 Jan 2004 (UTC)
- no it is not, though they are long lived, as far as I know they can only live into their hundreds. sunja 10:57, 21 Nov 2004 (UTC)
[edit] Threat
I'm pretty sure that the biggest threat to sea turtles currently (other than maybe in the Indian Ocean) is dieing as bycatch in the fishing industry.So the last paragraph is a little misleading.. sunja 09:48, 31 May 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Notes on British vs American English
I wonder if this would be appropriate on the main page as a side note. The phrase 'sea turtle' is not used in British English as we use the word terrapin for freshwater varieties. All the species names seem wrong as the word 'sea' is redundant.
What rubbish. In England the word Sea Turtle is used as much as in America
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- thanks for being so respectful about my comment. I have never seen the word 'sea turtle' in 25 years of reading reptile encyclopedias in England. Care to name a few sources and include your username? Glennh70 16:05, 20 February 2006 (UTC)
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- Here is a quick list that comes up after a BBC search on the word turtle-
There are about 80% less articles containing the word sea-turtles and even when using 'sea-turtle' as a search term you bring up more instances of the phrase 'marine turtle.' I can't find a single occurence of the phrase 'Green sea turtle' or 'Hawksbill sea turtle'. I would argue the use of the interfix 'sea' in a species name is never used for turtles on BBC material. It seems a good international encylopedia should mention this difference in terminology. Glennh70 05:54, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
The US Fish and Wildlife Service lists all species name with "sea" inserted, i.e. Leatherback sea turtle.[1] I only mention this because I am surpised, expecting since all Leatherbacks are obviously sea turtles the word "sea" might be ommitted.
[edit] Questions Not Answered
- What do sea turtles eat? Mirasmus 03:57, 22 February 2006 (UTC)
Each species has a different diet. Greens eat plants. Hawksbills eat sponges. Leatherbacks eat jellyfish. See the species articles for details. Wilsonjd 11:50, 1 September 2007 (UTC)
- How do they breath? Gills?
NO! they breathe air of course!
- How did they evolve?
They eat jellyfish, squid and sometimes seaweed. They breathe with lungs like all reptiles. Dora Nichov 07:54, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
Sea Turtles eat a wide variety of things such as
- small fish
- plankton
- krill
- seaweed
and many other things.
- Are sea turtles amphibious like frogs or do they need to surface for air like whales?--Teletran 23:28, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
Both! Frogs breathe air too. Sea turtles come to land to lay eggs, but spend most time at sea. They do need to surface to breath air.
[edit] sea turtles
sea turtles are so cute how do they avoid sharks?
They just swim and hide, but their shell and beak protect them to some extent... Dora Nichov 09:58, 17 December 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Possible vandalism to this article.
I don't have an account here and I'm not familiar with how to edit the pages, but it appears that the following paragraph has been altered inappropriately.
A sea turtle's senses are very sharp. However, all species of sea turtles are endangered. The Leatherback, Kemp's ridley, and Hawksbill turtles are listed as critically endangered. The Olive ridley, Loggerhead, and Green turtles are considered endangered. The Flat back is considered data deficient due to lack of research. Sea turtles used to be hunted on a large scale in the whaling days for their meat, fat and shells, and coastal peoples have always gathered turtle eggs for consumption. Their biggest threat now comes from long-line fishing, and as bycatch in shrimp nets, as well as over development on inexpensive changes to fishing techniques, such as slightly larger hooks and traps from which sea turtles can escape, can dramatically cut the mortality rate. Another danger comes from marine debris, especially from abandonded fishing nets in which they can become entangled. A major threat to the sea turtle population is Kayla Snyder, she eats them for sun.
The "user" from IP address 67.175.179.217 also vandalized the Puppy article.
209.34.196.154 15:53, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
Removed the last sentence. ECC211 19:00, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
added this page to my watch list awhile ago for this reason ---Wolfe 18:16, 8 July 2007 (UTC)
SAVE THE SEA TURTLES!!!!!!!!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.136.199.8 (talk) 20:08, 25 April 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Endangered Status
The status of these species (i.e. endangered, threatened) is an all cases uncited and in several cases incorrect. See [2]
In fact, virtually nothing is cited in this page at all! There is no cite for some species being "critically endangered," whatever that means. No figures are cited, and many may have large errors in measurement so knowing the source is important. The example in the "Sea turtles and fragile ecosystems" section is totally unsubstantiated. While there may be studies to this effect, any such study is not "fact" but merely a theory backed up by evidence. It is crucial to know what that evidence is. I find this rather suspect, especially as manatee and sea turtle populations are already well below "natural" numbers from a few hundreds of years ago. And I suspect the nutrient addition to beaches has no effect. Eutrophication (artificial nutrient enrichment) is the problem in ocean ecosystems, not a lack of nutrient. I'm sure human influence makes up for this loss with artificially induced nutrients, even if simply through dropped food. While sea turtles are in trouble and likely have some impact on their ecosystems, this article cites nothing and makes huge jumps in logic and leaps of faith without being in any way substantiated by real research.
- i'm not sure what youre saying... but there are plenty of news items about the threatened status of marine turtles. sunja 11:18, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] How Do Sea Turtles Mate
Please Answer —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 72.23.109.238 (talk) 20:32, 6 February 2007 (UTC).
- Very slowly. Remember 20:40, 6 February 2007 (UTC)
[edit] References (to be integrated into the text)
[edit] no
sea turtles live in the arctic becaues they are kind of winter animals.Sea turtles can lay eggs in a dry and hot spot in the ocean because the eggs can crack and than the new turtle can come out.Then when they are out they go to a suface.
[edit] Anatomy?
Aside from the flippers, is there anything that distinguishes sea turtles from tortoises or other land species? What does their skeleton look like and is their shell attached to it? Am I weird for wondering this stuff? (Please don't answer that last one!)
- A couple of anatomical differences. I'll deal with that when I get to this article. As for the shell thingy, that's better dealt with in the testudines article itself or the "turtle" article as all shelled turtle's carapaces are extensions of their vertebrae. Shrumster 04:15, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Picture in Conservation section
In the Conservation section, there's a picture labeled as a sea turtle caught in a net. When I look at this picture, I see what looks like a seal caught in a net. Would someone else please take a look at the picture and see what you think? If I don't see any comments to the contrary, then next time I log in I'll remove the picture from the article. If you agree with me, feel free to remove the picture yourself. —CKA3KA (Skazka) (talk) 03:00, 27 March 2008 (UTC)
- Looks like a turtle to me - you can see the hard line of the shell.--Graminophile (talk) 13:23, 27 March 2008 (UTC)
- I see what you mean, but I think that's just a fold of skin caused by the animal's position in the net. Look closely at the flippers and compare them to the flippers of all the sea-turtle pictures in this article and others. They don't look at all like turtle flippers. Then compare them to seal flippers. Also, there's a shoulder fold visible in what would have to be a shell if it were a turtle. Shells don't fold, unless, maybe, it's a leatherback; but a leatherback has dorsal ridges that seem to be missing on this animal. In addition, if you look at the shape near the bottom, the body looks longer and thinner than a turtle, but it makes sense if it's a seal. Last and, I suppose, least convincingly, the color's all wrong. All this taken together seems to me to strongly suggest that the picture is mislabeled. —CKA3KA (Skazka) (talk) 04:42, 28 March 2008 (UTC)
- You could well be right - the position of the shoulder doesn't look like that of a turtle. There's a higher resolution version of the photo here. So, it might be best to remove it. --Graminophile (talk) 08:54, 28 March 2008 (UTC)
- Thanks, Graminophile. I've removed the picture from the article, but I'm putting it here for safekeeping. —CKA3KA (Skazka) (talk) 07:07, 21 April 2008 (UTC)
- You could well be right - the position of the shoulder doesn't look like that of a turtle. There's a higher resolution version of the photo here. So, it might be best to remove it. --Graminophile (talk) 08:54, 28 March 2008 (UTC)
- I see what you mean, but I think that's just a fold of skin caused by the animal's position in the net. Look closely at the flippers and compare them to the flippers of all the sea-turtle pictures in this article and others. They don't look at all like turtle flippers. Then compare them to seal flippers. Also, there's a shoulder fold visible in what would have to be a shell if it were a turtle. Shells don't fold, unless, maybe, it's a leatherback; but a leatherback has dorsal ridges that seem to be missing on this animal. In addition, if you look at the shape near the bottom, the body looks longer and thinner than a turtle, but it makes sense if it's a seal. Last and, I suppose, least convincingly, the color's all wrong. All this taken together seems to me to strongly suggest that the picture is mislabeled. —CKA3KA (Skazka) (talk) 04:42, 28 March 2008 (UTC)
I've moved this discussion to the Image_talk:SeaTurtleInNet.jpg page to discuss the possibility of renaming the picture. If you want to continue this discussion, please go there so we can keep the discussion together. Thanks. —CKA3KA (Skazka) (talk) 01:32, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Semi-protect?
This article is coming close to needing semi-protection, no? High visibility, common homework topic, and often vandalised. -- Phoebe (talk) 14:52, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
