Talk:Seán South
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Sean South is categorized as a Roman Catholic because his page makes clear that he was a member of An Rialt (the Irish-speaking chapter of the Legion of Mary). Robbie 06:10, 23 February 2006 (UTC)
- Yes, he must be so categorised. It had a big effect on his life. I see 'Removed Catholics category, not relevant to his notability)'. Not to you, perhaps, but in Limerick in the 1950s it was important. Or, is he only famous now because of the song?Red Hurley 16:07, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
- Agreed, if it play a significant part in his life then it should be recorded.--Vintagekits 16:10, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
- As the article stood at the time, the Catholics category had no particular relevance to his notability, and even now it doesn't assert that much notability. Please see Category:Roman Catholics for inclusion criteria. One Night In Hackney303 16:13, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
- It meant a lot to him; the Legion of Mary is not something you join on a whim, unless you have a lot of spare time.Red Hurley 18:57, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
- As the article stood at the time, the Catholics category had no particular relevance to his notability, and even now it doesn't assert that much notability. Please see Category:Roman Catholics for inclusion criteria. One Night In Hackney303 16:13, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
- Agreed, if it play a significant part in his life then it should be recorded.--Vintagekits 16:10, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Breaking up couples in the cinema
This claim by Jim Kemmy is possible, but as Kemmy was a politician from a political tradition hostile to South's brand of republicanism I take this with a degree of caution. PatGallacher 16:41, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
- I love it, I laughed out loud, whats the source for the info.--Vintagekits 16:42, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
- I'm assuming it must be have published somewhere before his death in 1997, but this and this have some bearing, neither of which are reliable obviously. One Night In Hackney303 16:56, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
Casual comments like this about 50 years after the event are hardly a reliable source. Can anyone come up with anything better? PatGallacher 18:40, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
- I wasn't suggesting they were reliable, in fact they make me more inclined to remove the information straight away, and it can be added back if and only if a reliable source is provided. One Night In Hackney303 18:40, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
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- Jim Kemmy is quite reliable enough for me. Probably none of us lived in Limerick 50 years ago. South was 'hi-viz' in Garryowen, he minded about some couples giving a bad example and distracting other watchers. There was no TV then, cinema mattered more.Red Hurley 18:57, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
- Prove he said it. One Night In Hackney303 18:58, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
- The web sources above are not good enough, but that is the gist of what I've read. Will take me time to find which article Kemmy wrote it in. Why aren't you concerned about the source for South being in the FCA? The Legion paraded outside our local lap-dancing club in the last few years. What South did in the cinema was no big deal; proactive, righteous indignation, that sort of thing.Red Hurley 19:09, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
- You're the person adding unsourced information to an article, not myself. One Night In Hackney303 19:14, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
- The web sources above are not good enough, but that is the gist of what I've read. Will take me time to find which article Kemmy wrote it in. Why aren't you concerned about the source for South being in the FCA? The Legion paraded outside our local lap-dancing club in the last few years. What South did in the cinema was no big deal; proactive, righteous indignation, that sort of thing.Red Hurley 19:09, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
- Prove he said it. One Night In Hackney303 18:58, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
- Jim Kemmy is quite reliable enough for me. Probably none of us lived in Limerick 50 years ago. South was 'hi-viz' in Garryowen, he minded about some couples giving a bad example and distracting other watchers. There was no TV then, cinema mattered more.Red Hurley 18:57, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
Like I said, 'Will take me time to find which article Kemmy wrote it in.' I'll find it. Consider that South's need for order, his membership of the FCA and IRA and the Legion (which is arranged like a Roman Legion), 3 armies as it were, and his need for proactivity (cinemas / N. Ireland) all ties in as well. That is why I believe Kemmy but no-one else has to.Red Hurley 19:23, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
- I'm not saying I don't believe Kemmy, it's just that I'd prefer it to be cited. One Night In Hackney303 19:25, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
- While I'm serching you can all enjoy this Durrus and District History ModernRed Hurley 13:52, 1 June 2007 (UTC)
- I did enjoy nominating that and Durrus and District History for deletion, thanks! One Night In Hackney303 16:50, 1 June 2007 (UTC)
- While I'm serching you can all enjoy this Durrus and District History ModernRed Hurley 13:52, 1 June 2007 (UTC)