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[edit] Update

There, hope this is better for all the SCUMM games. One thing that's definitely missing is all the in-jokes and references within the SCUMM games (there's *lots*) - I just don't know about / remember them all. Anyone who can think of any, please, add them. The only ones i've included are the MM / Zak chainsaw / fuel thing, and a few references between the MI games on the MI page. AW

[edit] Monkey Island Pun

In the Monkey Island game series, a big pun pointing to the system is the SCUMM Bar, a little place of action on Melee Island. ^_^

[edit] Version numbers, technicalities

Technically, Monkey Island VGA floppy and Loom CD are SCUMM v5 (as indicated by version strings in the executables). In reality, however, they are far closer to SCUMM v4, the same version used by Monkey Island EGA floppy (using DISK##.LEC files rather than GAMENAME.000/GAMENAME.001 files).

Also, some research has revealed that the NES version of Maniac Mansion uses a SCUMM version between v1 and v2 (in most cases, it is closer to v2).--Quietust 23:40, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Further research has revealed that the original C64 version of Maniac Mansion is very different from the classic PC version, using a script bytecode incompatible with standard SCUMM v1 (and very closely tied to the game itself, having numerous text strings hardcoded into the engine itself). The C64 version of Zak McKracken, however, uses the same SCUMM v1 used in the classic PC version. --Quietust 02:11, 27 July 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Ports

The article says SCUMM has been ported for the DS. For what games? --Some guy 01:57, 3 October 2005 (UTC)

Short answer: none. Long answer: Somebody was overzealous when they expanded the list of native SCUMM platforms and included the platforms ScummVM was ported to. --Quietust 02:11, 27 February 2006 (UTC)

This happened again by user Cassioli. SCUMM was never ported to SymbianOS, latter just didn't exist at that time. Moreover, even EscummVM is already gone and was merged into main ScummVM tree, i.e. the port became official. Current list of ports is complete to best of our knowledge, and we know even about game prototypes. --Sevua 18:35, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Humongous Entertainment Versions

I think we should include the HE game versions as well. Does anyone else agree? Clone2727 00:07, 27 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] In gaming culture

I'd like to see more expansion on the subject of references to the SCUMM engine in modern culture, as it has become part of the standard lexicon and remained so long after the software itself has become essentially obsolete. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Peter Deer (talk • contribs) 13:49, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Prose tag, images

Both the {{prose}} tag and several images were just removed from this article with no rationale. I can't see why that is. The version history could easily be converted to prose (and should be) and the article is short of images in my opinion, not too full of them. Chris Cunningham (talk) 09:51, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

If you want to turn the list into prose, go ahead. A list, to me, makes more sense though. The images I removed because they fail the Wikipedia:Non-free content criteria. Garion96 (talk) 10:02, 16 December 2007 (UTC)
Done. Much better. Chris Cunningham (talk) 11:36, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:Loom.png

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[edit] This talk page needs a clean up

There's a lot of old stuff here, not relevant to the article anymore, but I don't know what the Wikipedia Policy is regarding the cleansing of old messages. Zorbid (talk) 16:41, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

Old talk is usually archived, not deleted. It may be useful to editors who want to examine the rationale for old changes while looking through the article's history. If the page gets long enough that old discussion is interfering with it, I'll archive it. Chris Cunningham (not at work) - talk 19:49, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Regarding the trivia tag in the in-jokes section...

I removed it, and expanded/reworded the section (as 81.240.208.234).

Puns were a signature of the adventure game developers at LucasFilm Games/ LucasArts at that time. They were to my knowledge among the pioneers of this kind of humor in computer games. It had AFAIK an impact on gaming culture, and it deserves a mention.Zorbid (talk) 16:49, 13 May 2008 (UTC)