User talk:Scroggie

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Welcome!

Hello, Scroggie, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are some pages that you might find helpful:

I hope you enjoy editing here and being a Wikipedian! Please sign your name on talk pages using four tildes (~~~~); this will automatically produce your name and the date. If you need help, check out Wikipedia:Questions, ask me on my talk page, or ask your question and then place {{helpme}} after the question on your talk page. Again, welcome! Arnoutf 11:30, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

Hello there, I'm curious, how can you be proud of being British and also want Independance? I'm not looking for an argument, as I said, just curious!--Jack forbes (talk) 18:04, 23 March 2008 (UTC)


[edit] Times change

I can understand where your coming from! We will always be part of the British isles, but I do think that attitudes are changing in Scotland towards what it means to be British! My fathers generation would always consider themselves Scottish and British, but with devolution and in particular the SNP in power more and more people realise we are capable of running our own affairs, which was'nt always the case!--Jack forbes (talk) 19:10, 23 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Languages do not respect geographical borders

Scots language: You are correct in stating that languages do not respect geographical borders. Though it is perhaps unwise to leave the following nonsense in the article: but arguably upto 2.5 million speakers throughout Northumberland, County Durham and Tyne and Wear.

A source for a sensible treatment of the subject is perhaps the following about the Southern Boundary of Scottish Speech. The map is here.

Since the languageness of Scots is justifiably debatable, as explained in the second paragraph and further on under Status, using Scots is an Anglic language descended... in the first sentence pre-empts the second paragraph and is arguably POV, a more neutral phrasing would perhaps be: Scots refers to the Anglic varieties derived from early northern Middle English spoken in parts of Scotland.

That, of course, doesn't solve the same problem in the Other Uses tag at the top of the page.

Mentioning that it is also called Lowland Scots is fine but Lallans is not a contraction of lowland Scots but simply the Scots form of lowlands (and is mentioned in the fourth paragraph). It would suffice to mention that Scottish Gaelic is traditionally spoken in the Highlands and Islands. More information such as and small communities in the urban lowlands may lead to demands to have that bloke in Hawick included too. It clutters the article. After all, the article is about Scots. Detailed info about the distribution of Gaelic speakers belongs in the article Scottish Gaelic.

In Scotland it is sometimes called Lowland Scots to distinguish it from Scottish Gaelic traditionally spoken in the Highlands and Islands. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.134.209.37 (talk) 23:44, 31 March 2008 (UTC)