Talk:Scratching (street art)

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While I appreciate that scratched windows on trains / trams / buses is a phenomenon, it is hardly new, and we have only one article (in german) relating to it. I'm retagging with {{unref}} until there are more sources. In particular, sources to which we can attribute the claim of this being an artform (let alone a new one). - Tiswas^(t/c) 16:01, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

"Artform" claim is substantiated, I trust it? As for controversial, try riding in a car thus decorated. And if that doesn't convince you, I'll have ask to a teensy little bit of patience from Your Highness, I distinctly recall a couple of blog entries debating the pros and cons of scratching. As for "hardly new", what do you mean, are you aware of references documenting scratching before the mid-90s? Window-scratching, that is, I am aware that scratching per se is about as old as human culture. Paradoctor 16:15, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

There's the rub entirely - anecdotally, I can remember travelling on trams / buses / trains, all with tags and images scratched into the windows (and any other surface). The onus is on you to support any claim of newness. Insofar as controversy is concerned, that's not for you or I to decide, but merely to attribute to a reliable source (not blogs, I should point out). Reading WP:5 will give you a clearer guide to what is acceptable or not - Tiswas^(t/c) 16:27, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

Also, unsupported edits, surreptitious reverts and personal attacks will invariably lead to warnings and blocks from Wikipedia. Please remain civil to other editors - Tiswas^(t/c) 16:29, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

Apologies for the continued additions - The links that you have provided are to an artist that uses scratched windows - There is a clear distinction between window scratching as an artform, and the use of vandalised and scratched windows in art. You need to provied references of scratching as art (c.f. graffiti as art, a la Banksy et al.- Tiswas^(t/c) 16:32, 20 April 2007 (UTC)