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[edit] Cite sources

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[edit] Dfrg.msc

I've removed your notice on AIAV (twice now) because with users that have more than 50 edits or so, your best bet is to go the administrator noticeboard or the requests for investigation page or even the requests for CheckUser page if you think that this might be a sockpuppet of someone else. AIAV is really designed for new accounts or IPs that are only here to vandalize. It's a bit murkier with someone like this who has over 100 edits. And also, before posting to AIAV, more than one warning needs to be on the user's talk page. All I see here is one and it's several weeks old. The places I mentioned are simply better for cases like dfrg. --Woohookitty^(meow) 10:46, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

Scottie! Stop busting my hump man! What is it that I have done? We can resolve it, becase as the saying goes: We can work it out! We can work it oooouuut! We can work it out! We can work it ooouuut!

Yours, in Song, Dfrg.msc 07:52, 26 June 2006 (UTC)

How am i a bloody sock puppet? you have no evidence? have i vandilised? just leave me alone and let me edit scottie.

No scottie no........ no scottie no no scottie no!

yours in absolute contempt F 22 10:28, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

Hello again Scottie! Man, you don't get much traffic through here do you? Ah, the life of a good editor! Anyway, the "Be getting out of my house (Scottie)" means nothing mate! Feel free to roam around my page and do what you do. Who's house is it anyway?

User:Dfrg.msc Image:DFRG. MSC.jpg 02:31, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

Fine Scottster, be that way. Dfrg.msc Image:DFRG. MSC.jpg 06:14, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

Yo Scottie! What's shakin'? Dfrg.m s c ^{1 . 2 . 3} 06:34, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

Scottie? Dfrg.m s c ^{1 . 2 . 3} 07:12, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

Ok, let's try this again: It's called Civility Scottie. Hello Scottie, how are you? I ask because it is important to care about the people behind the project. Are you happy about the reaching of over 1,500,000 articles on English Wikipedia, I am. Did you have a nice Thanksgiving? I am currently fighting Vandalism, through VandalProof and other devices. I find it amusing that you once tried to get me blocked through WP:AIAV, and now I am doing this to vandals, how things change eh? What are you currently working on? Do you require assistance with any task? Looking forward to hearing from you, Dfrg.m s c ^{1 . 2 . 3} 22:32, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

I don't celebrate Thanksgiving, though I am doing rather well. I'm just cleaning up random video game articles, but I don't foresee any need for your assistance at this time. Thank you for asking. --Scottie theNerd 02:08, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] HEY SCOTTIE

Why do you keep deleting my call of duty roads to victory article arent you the one who said dont have editing wars. I am NOT doing anything against the wikipedia guidelines so if you could stop deleting it whenever i type that would be good. Why do you not want me to write it at first i had some copyright trouble but i cleared it up, you keep saying wkipedia is not a video game advertising site but i have found many articles written like mine so just quit deleting please. If you keep deleting it you will be the one going against the Wiki guidelines. JSKILL

CIVILITY

If you have problems with Wikipedia policy, discuss on the the respective talk pages. If you want more information on editing game articles, refer to Wikipedia:WikiProject Video games. The guidelines state that game guide material should not be used on Wikipedia, as Wikipedia caters for general readers. The edits you have made to Call of Duty: Roads to Victory are incomplete, consist of original research, are not verified and consist of trivia. If you are interested in submitted game-related material, consider contributing to game wikis such as those listed at the bottom of the Video Games WikiProject.

Also keep in mind that inclusion is not an indication of notability. If other pages violate Wikipedia guidelines, they should be fixed rather than making every other article worse. Given that you are new to Wikipedia, it is not good advice to tell me what to do. --Scottie_theNerd 01:43, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] I know you from GameFAQs!

You may know me as SpideyVenom101, who is constantly warned for supposed TOS violations(darn RaptorLC). BTW Spielberg did direct the series(MOH). In the back of the allied assault manual, it says so.Ollie the Magic Skater 03:34, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

Yeah it's been that way since the original Medal of Honor on PSX. (My personal favorete). Just cheack IMDB. Alex 1991 19:32, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] It's not a fan league

The MRL is a actual tournament for all of the clans in the game. and It's part of the Allied Assualt game now whether you like it or not. And quit saying there isn't any scores and advertising on wikipedia. I see it all the goddamn time. Alex 1991 21:42, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

If the MRL is a major or official part of the game, please provide references. If it's a third-party site organising tournaments for clans, it's not automatically significant. Wikipedia does not look highly on scoreboard-style sections, and just because you "see it all the goddamn time" does not mean that you should include one for Allied Assault. Until you provide proper referencing regarding the MRL and its significance, it will be reverted whether you "like it all not". --Scottie theNerd 23:12, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

Wow your horrible at quoting ya know. anyways. who really gives a damn. It's not like I'm posting all the scores that have happened. So it's not really a score board because I only post about who's in the lead not who's in 2nd, 3rd, 4th etc. etc. So get this. Loosen up.Alex 1991 19:30, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Hi, clearly I'm New

I began posting a weapons page on the Gears of War page, and it seems that you deleted it. Under the explanation you said to view weapons page. There isn't one I can find. So, the reason I'm posting this is because I have a question and a suggestion. Why don't you or I post a link to said weapons page on the topic and why did you delete my work? You could've informed me and then moved it to a weapons page. I don't mean to be rude, but I put a lot of effort into the first part of that page. Well, thanks. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Kea vader (talk • contribs) 20:07, 9 December 2006 (UTC).

See Talk:Gears_of_War#Weapons. Countless people have written up Weapons sections (including me), but Wikipedia does not encourage technical lists that are not significant in themselves. There is no "weapons" page, and the main Gears of War article is not the place to elaborate on weapons. They're not important as far as the article is concerned. --Scottie theNerd 21:37, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

Thank you I appreciate the answer —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kea vader (talk • contribs)

[edit] Call of Duty 2 edits

Please refrain from undoing other people's edits repeatedly. If you continue, you may be blocked from editing Wikipedia. Note that the three-revert rule prohibits making more than three reversions in a content dispute within a 24 hour period. Additionally, users who perform a large number of reversions in content disputes may be blocked for edit warring, even if they do not technically violate the three-revert rule. Rather than reverting, discuss disputed changes on the talk page. The revision you want is not going to be implemented by edit warring. Thank you. Noclip 03:18, 20 December 2006 (UTC)

I see that you're not the undisputed ruler of all gaming articles. --Far Beyond 08:28, 21 December 2006 (UTC)

Never said I was, and I'm not the one in the wrong. This notice was a friendly reminder about WP:3RR. You might want to actually see the Call of Duty 2 article before making a snide comment, and perhaps acknowledge the revert rules yourself. --Scottie theNerd 08:30, 21 December 2006 (UTC)

I don't think I violted the 3 reverts rule, and I don't think Noclip was being very friendly. Oh wait, that's an automated template. Anyway, I see that that Call of Duty 2 article has a ton of information which people who have never played the game would not be interested in. A long discussion of single player maps and strategies, and even a list of multiplayer maps. I would honestly say that it violates those rules you showed me. Were those links you showed me Official policy for this site? And we're all really friendly here. After all, we are all on the same team, right?--Far Beyond 08:41, 21 December 2006 (UTC)

I didn't say you did violate the 3RR; I am pointing out that you should discuss major changes to the page before reverting them in order to avert an edit war. The Call of Duty 2 article is a poor article, hence the cleanup tag at the top. I am referring to the removal of the weapons section and the respective section in its Talk page, which is more relevant to what you and I just went through. --Scottie theNerd 08:44, 21 December 2006 (UTC)

If you're looking for another article to slice up, check out Call of Duty 2: Big Red One. --Far Beyond 08:52, 21 December 2006 (UTC)

What the F- that was one scary list. --Scottie theNerd 08:57, 21 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Christmas Card

Wishing you a happy and safe Christmas season, and a blessed new year. Enjoy where you are, and who your with. Merry Christmas! From, Defrag and Jilly.

[edit] Xbox Handheld

You participated in an AfD for Xbox Handheld. I re-wrote the article as a stub and provided sources. Please take a look at the re-written article Xbox Handheld and comment at the AfD discussion [1] Alan Shatte 22:49, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Hello

Hi! I'm Ace Fighter, and I'm trying to meet new people on wikipedia and I stumbled across you, and good for you that communicate through Userboxes. Ace Fighter 03:22, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] War Rock

Please refrain from editing this article until you read http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battlefield_2.Planb11 03:38, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

Most of Battlefield 2's content is also against WP:NOT. Please read WP:INN before violating other Wikipedia policies. --Scottie theNerd 09:10, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

I recommend that you read http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WP:POINT. When you just completly remade the article you did not wait until you had everyones feedback and approvel for this. Planb11 06:53, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

I did not remake the entire article; I removed sections in clear violation of WP:NOT according to Wikipedia's recommendation of being bold. I did not consider the removal of extensive non-encyclopedic lists as being a controversial issue. If other editors disagreed, they are free to revert or discuss the major change on the Talk page and work from there. Rather than wait days for a response on a relatively inactive article, I took it upon myself to do a quick cleanup as well as leaving a courtesy notice of the removal and its justification on the talk page. No one has responded to the comment nor evidently disagreed with the cleanup.

I do not see your point in dragging this to my talk page. First you're comparing what War Rock was in comparison to Battlefield 2 (which, for your information, has been delisted as a good article). Now you're accusing me of not gathering feedback when I did open the discussion on Talk:War Rock, and finally bringing this up a month after the cleanup. --Scottie theNerd 15:31, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] BrickFlim.gif

Congratulations! You are in the credits of our movie. Good job Scottie. And wow, how has traffic picked on your page? You may need to archinve soon. Cheers, Dfrg.ms c ^{1 . 2 . Editor Review} 05:20, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Alright, Buddy

Look, I was not saying I'm opposed to every and all arguments, or that they arn't part of the afd process. I was opposed to getting into an indepth debate with someone who keeps putting words in my mouth about an article that is probably going to be deleted anyway. I do know the policies of this encyclopedia. I do know how afd works. You crossed the line with that last comment. I respect you trying to keep Wikipedia free from nonsense, but I have the right to fight for what I believe meets policy. I know that may confuse you, so I'll repeat that. I know the policy, and this, in my opinion (that thing that helps form consensus...which runs Wikipedia), meets it. I know I shouldn't takee things personally, so I will get over this insult. After all, you're experience isn't overwhelming and I see you're just starting to get involved with Wiki discussions. Keep up the...work. Gan fon 23:19, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

For someone with your experience, I expected clearer arguments that what you put forward. If that was not your intention, I apologise for my oversight and retract my statements towards you. --Scottie theNerd 23:52, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Your revert on Battlefield 1942

I had added the server side modding section before I registered here at Wikipedia. Just wondering why you reverted it. Many servers use this modding technique, and the website linked to has been in place for nearly three years now. Should I not have started a new section and just added this content under the general Modding header? WhyTwoKay 05:10, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

That would have been more appropriate. However, be wary of using credible sources; one website on server modding does not automatically make it the authoritative reference on what you write. Also be careful of using weasel words. --Scottie theNerd 05:12, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

I will say that I am new at adding editing wikipedia, but I have been reading it for quite some time now. Call it a hobby if you will. Could you possibly help me come up with the proper way to phrase it? I feel that it is something to include, even if the website linked doesn't matter. It's the same as adding links to the other mods (or even BFTracks) under the modding section. WhyTwoKay 05:14, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

You can start off by reading the guidelines I have already posted. Try to avoid words such as "Many people", "some people think" and so on; use clear statements that reflect the information presented from your source. I think the material you want to post is encyclopedic and can be properly referenced, although forum posts should never be used as a source. The main thing you need to be wary of is that you should phrase your addition based what the source says, not what you know of the subject. --Scottie theNerd 05:17, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

Maybe I just started off a little too big with editing. WhyTwoKay 05:29, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

We all start from somewhere, and one of the pillars of Wikipedia is to be bold. Eventually, you'll start to develop a sense as to what is needed in a Wikipedia article and how you can improve it further. Many of the guidelines may be confusing to the new editor at first, but time and experience will allow you to rattle off guidelines off the top of your head. Don't feel restricted by what Wikipedia is, but also be aware of what it isn't. --Scottie theNerd 10:23, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Bugs in Rise_of_Nations

i have seen on bug in this game why not to add this category in artilce?. why not writing About wonders,nations in (Just one or two lines over view). will be waiting for positive response. Khalidkhoso 09:38, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia is not the place to report bugs and glitches in a game, unless they are notable and verified by credible sources. While the bugs may be important to people who play the game, they are of minimal value to readers who do not play the game, and as such is considered to be unencyclopedic. --Scottie theNerd 10:22, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] BF:V

I felt the IPs removal was good as 'possibly the most famous jet fighter of all time, the F-4 Phantom II' isn't really NPOV at all. BJ^Talk 12:40, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Frequency

Thanks, that was the word I was trying to think of :-) --Calair 03:59, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Hey!

How come you take away my enemy list on dino crisis and not the one on dino crisis 2 aswell? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 172.143.202.231 (talk)

Because I'm not a god-like figure who monitors every single game article. In any case, the list as been removed as per WP:NOT. --Scottie_theNerd 19:56, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Could you help me out?

I have read several edits by you on the War Rock page saying that this is not a game guide site and you constantly refer to the WP:NOT page. While I agree with you, I can't find the information on that page talking about how Wikipedia is not a game guide. I plan on doing some clean up editing on Pangya since the majority of that page is nothing but a game guide and being able to quote the information concerning Wikipedia not being a game guide would be very helpful.

Thanks Chocobo10 21:40, 9 May 2007 (UTC)

WP:NOT#Wikipedia_is_not_an_indiscriminate_collection_of_information - Wikipedia is not an instruction manual, which is what a game guide typically falls under. Also see the guidelines at WP:VG for a clear idea what of an article should contain. --Scottie_theNerd 02:47, 10 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Call of Duty 2 Edits

I undid this edit because the page I referenced does indeed describe different multi player game mods in Call of Duty 2. ~ G1ggy! _{Reply | Powderfinger!} 06:40, 11 May 2007 (UTC)

That second edit makes a bit more sense =D ~ G1ggy! _{Reply | Powderfinger!} 07:03, 11 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Starcraft 2

I just wanted your input on the recent problem I've been having editing this article - recently, a section has been added to this article [2] which is not reliably sourced. However, on the talk page, I appear to be the only one that cares that this is the case. I noticed that you earlier argued against including it, and was wondering you still believe that it should be removed - or if I'm way off base here. --Haemo 07:58, 2 June 2007 (UTC)

I am aware of that problem, and basically I do not consider the information referenced to Infoceptor to be fact - a point emphasised by the editor continually referring to the information as "fact" despite the lack of supporting evidence other than video analysis. Either way, once the game is released this will all be a moot point. --Scottie_theNerd 08:57, 2 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Little Fighter 2

I think you misunderstood my statement -- the game came out 8 years ago. It may have gotten serious coverage then; that coverage would not necessarily be easy to find 8 years later. I never said it didn't get coverage when it came out, I said the fact that it isn't getting coverage now is not proof that it isn't notable. Capmango 20:18, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Company of Heroes

Hi, I noticed you are a regular contributor to the Company of Heroes article so I thought I'd give you a heads-up about this recent forum post encouraging vandalism of the CoH article. CIreland 12:40, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Car/Track list @Live for Speed

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Need_for_Speed_%28video_game%29 Car list X Track List X Lengthy desction of either X

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Need_for_Speed_II Car list X Track List X Lengthy desction of either X

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Need_for_Speed_III:_Hot_Pursuit Car list X Track List X Lengthy desction of either X

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Need_for_Speed:_High_Stakes Car list X Track List X Lengthy desction of either X

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Need_for_Speed:_Porsche_Unleashed Car list X Track List X Lengthy desction of either X

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motor_City_Online Car list X Track List Lengthy desction of either

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Need_for_Speed:_Hot_Pursuit_2 Car list X Track List Soundtrack list X Lengthy desction of either

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Need_for_Speed:_Underground Car list X Track List Character list X Soundtrack list X Lengthy desction of either

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Need_for_Speed:_Underground_2 Car list X Track List Character list X Soundtrack list X Lengthy desction of either

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Need_for_Speed:_Most_Wanted Car list X Track List Character list Soundtrack list X Lengthy desction of either

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Need_for_Speed:_Carbon Car list X Track List Character list X Soundtrack list X Crew list X Lengthy desction of either X

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Need_for_Speed:_ProStreet Car list X Track List Character list Soundtrack list X Crew list Lengthy desction of either

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Need_for_Speed_soundtracks Car list Track List Character list Soundtrack list X Crew list Lengthy desction of either

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Need_for_Speed_locations Car list Track List X Character list Soundtrack list Crew list Lengthy desction of either

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Need_for_Speed_characters Car list Track List Character list X Soundtrack list Crew list Lengthy desction of either

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gran_Turismo_2 Car list Track List Soundtrack list X Lengthy desction of either

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gran_Turismo_4 Car list Track List Soundtrack list X Lengthy desction of either

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RFactor Car list X Unofficial (MOD) car list X Track List X Unofficial (MOD) track List X Soundtrack list X Lengthy desction of either Leagues list X

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grand_Prix_Legends Car list X Unofficial (MOD) car list X Track List X Unofficial (MOD) track List (link) X Lengthy desction of either X Leagues list X

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GTR_-_FIA_GT_Racing_Game Car/Team list X Track List X

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GT_Legends Car list X Track List X

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NASCAR_Racing_2003_Season Unofficial (MOD) car list X

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TOCA_Touring_Car_series Car/Team list X

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1080%C2%B0_Avalanche Car list Track List X Soundtrack list X

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/4x4_EVO_2 Car list X

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ATV_Offroad_Fury Soundtrack list X

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colin_McRae:_DiRT Car list X <------- OF THE FRIGGIN' DEMO! Track List X <------- OF THE FRIGGIN' DEMO!

And I could still make the still probably twice as long if I'd dig through even more video game articles but I can't be arsed, because every popular game have lists of car/tracks/soundtrack/team etc in them. If I'd start digging through movie articles, what would I find there? More lists of actors and soundtracks, filming locations etc. But I won't start adding them here because the list would become enormous.

Now, tell me why you need (repeatedly) to delete car and track list from the article Live for Speed and yet ALL THE ARTICLES above can keep theirs? The way I see it is, the rules that applies to article Live for Speed apply to also to the articles above, all can keep their lists or they get removed, or what you will have is a edit war if some more determined than me comes along. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.78.192.163 (talk)

WP:NOT states that articles should not contain information that belongs on game guides and instruction manuals, and the guidelines on WP:VG also discourage extensive lists that are meaningless to the casual reader. You are correct, the rules that apply to Live for Speed apply to the articles you stated above. Therefore, I encourage you to contribute and remove such lists. I don't patrol every single article on Wikipedia. In case you were wondering, I did raise the issue on car lists on the WP:VG talk page, and it was agreed that lists don't belong and should be cleaned up. --Scottie_theNerd 15:01, 24 June 2007 (UTC)

Hi Scottie. Thanks for putting some effort into keeping Wikipedia lean and fit. I really like that in general. Having said that, the Live for Speed article is enhanced from this relatively short list and the casual reader can benefit. Thanks again. Cheers E dog95 21:20, 24 June 2007 (UTC)

Just gonna point out that some really cool editor went through most of those awhile ago and removed the car and track lists....I won't say who, but he's a pretty cool guy (COUGH). DurinsBane87 03:50, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

I hope this really cool editor has life insurance <_< --Scottie_theNerd 11:03, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Thanx Scottie!

Hopefully I can get to know you better, in a wikipedia kinda of way. --HPJoker 18:02, 2 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Tell me how to do...

when u signed ur post in call of duty 4 it showed up as a cool green i have no idea how to do that but how do u it(Esskater11 16:58, 26 July 2007 (UTC))

You can manually configure your signature from your preferences page. Use HTML tags to bold and colour your signature. --Scottie_theNerd 18:07, 26 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Call of Duty 3 weapons list

Why did you remove my weapons list? It gives people a cool chance to easily read about the weapons they used in the game. please respond on my talk page. NYyankees51 22:21, 25 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Weapons list

Actually I got the list direct from the bonus material from the actual disc. Once again, it's interesting to read about stuff used in the game. NYyankees51 20:27, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

Just because it's interesting doesn't mean it's notable. There are other sites that specialise in providing such information. Consider contributing to those. --Scottie_theNerd 20:57, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

Just because you don't find it interesting doesn't mean other people won't.NYyankees51 00:18, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

It's definitely notable and verifiable. Again, I said the list came directly from the bonus material on the game disc. Without a guns list, COD3 is Grenade-a-palooza. —Preceding unsigned comment added by NYyankees51 (talk • contribs) 23:56, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

That's your opinion, and you don't rule Wikipedia. NYyankees51 21:03, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Ace Combat 5

I'm having trouble on the Ace Combat 5 page. I don't want to break the 3 revert rule, so if you could help me out, it'd be great. Some guy (who's ONLY contributions have been these contributions) keeps adding the aircraft list back in. Thanks DurinsBane87 08:09, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Call of Duty 4 Edits

Hey there! My name's Walt and I'm new to editing Wikipedia, been using it for years now. I had a quick question: I added in the perks for COD4 to the article and I saw that you removed it! I was just wondering why as I thought it was informative and let people know what kind of extras the gameplay had! Thanks in advance for your answer. Notorious Walt 15:08, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

There is a difference between informing readers of what features a game has, and listing everything in the game. Lists in general convey little useful information. If Call of Duty 4 has a variety of perks, simply say so in the article. Don't list everything you can unlock and customise; that sort of information alienates non-gamers. Such information is more appropriate in game guides and game wikis, such as GamerWiki and StrategyWiki. --Scottie_theNerd 15:17, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

Thanks a lot for the speedy answer bro. As I said, I was new to editing and that tip will definitely help me! See ya around! Notorious Walt 15:27, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Categorization

According to the Categorization guide.

"In the "vertical" dimension, Wikipedia has traditionally been more frugal, placing articles only in the most specific categories they reasonably fit in. Thus, if there is a Category:American film actors, John Wayne would go there and not in Category:Film actors or Category:American actors. However, there is a school of thought that argues that, because different users may be interested in different categories, and because placing articles in multiple categories takes up minimal additional space, in some cases one should place articles in all the categories that apply."

What I did was follow the traditional guidelines. We don't usually use redundant categories because otherwise it can include everything on the upper hierarchy. Oberiko 11:13, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

Thank you for your prompt clarification. The category removal now makes sense to me. --Scottie_theNerd 11:58, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Merger of CoD 4 article

Hi there. There is currently a proposed merger of the Call of Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare (Nintendo DS) article into the Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare article. The DS version of this article has been around for a few months now and nothing has really changed, it still pretty much is just a few paragraphs copied and pasted from the CoD 4 article. I would appreciate it, if you don't mind, updating your position on this in the talk page of the propsed merger. Cheers :) JayKeaton 10:19, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Sources

Do you think I have to cite sources in this articles: Florin Barbu, Mihai Iordache, Sarmalele Reci, Stefan Popa, Blazzaj. On some of them there is not much info on the internet, I just took the inforation directly from the person. --PET (talk) 02:37, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

Information has to come somewhere. The purpose of citing sources is to allow someone else to trace where the information comes from in order to verify its accuracy. There's no way any of us can tell if the information is true or not, so providing sources is how academics can attribute sources of information. If you got it "directly" from the person, the only way others can verify it is by also getting it "directly" from the person, and obviously we can't do that. Bear in mind, however, that sources should be independent whenever possible; getting it "directly" from the person is rarely accurate or reliable. --Scottie_theNerd 03:54, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

I jsut wanted to know if I need a "proof" of what I have wrote there. That's what I understanded about the "sources".

--PET 14:29, 30 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] article

Hello,

do you think a website like vois.com can have a wikipedia page? THanks

--PET 14:26, 30 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Gamecruft (COD4)

Hi there, I saw you removed the maps and perks list I added to the COD4 article.

I read the stuff about Gamecruft - Scope of Information, but frankly I don't agree this applies to maps and perks. I think there's a difference between a detailed walkthrough, and a list of maps and perks. The lists of maps and perks, both with a brief description for each entry, isn't just interesting for people actually playing the game. It also gives non-players an idea what the game is like, and what makes it different from some other FPS games for instance. Secondly, if you really felt you had to remove the maps and perks list (which I think is unnecessary), personally I think you should have labeled it to be moved to a game-wiki, as suggested in the Gamecruft article you referred to, instead of just removing it. Greetings, RagingR2 (talk) 00:25, 24 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Spoiler warnings

Would you have any idea as to why the spoiler bar at the top of plot sections for movies, games, etc. was removed from all articles? And why a bold message warning viewers of spoilers is always removed? This is pointless; people need to be warned before reading synopsis that will ruin a movie for them. Please reply on my talk page. NYyankees51 (talk) 01:44, 19 January 2008 (UTC)

I've lost the link, but there was a Wikipedia-wide discussion on the use of spoiler tags for plot sections for any article. The consensus was that a section labeled as "Plot" or "Story" is an inherent spoiler warning, and that spoiler tags for these sections are redundant. Basically, if you're reading the plot summary, you're willingly spoiling the plot for yourself, so the spoiler tags are reserved for sections which do not inherently reveal plot details. --Scottie_theNerd 06:52, 19 January 2008 (UTC)