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[edit] More FLC business

Dispute on WT:FLC#During a recent spat regarding the 4 supports that each nomination must receive in order to pass, and a proposal to implement a featured list director. Thought you'd might be interested considering you close a hell of a lot of FLCs. Thanks, Spebi 08:52, 2 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Page move

FYI, moved page to Primetime Emmy Award for Outstanding Animated Program (for Programming Less Than One Hour), as per official capitalization/wording at www.emmys.org. I'd like to work on getting this article up to WP:FL status, and as I've never done that before, your help would be appreciated. I will work on sourcing. Cirt 14:45, 3 December 2007 (UTC).

  • Sigh, and after I worked on structuring it after Xihix (talk · contribs)'s WP:FL, The Simpsons (Season 9), you come along and provide a much better example. Hehe, no worries, I'll work on restructuring the list after Golden Globe Award for Best Director - Motion Picture, shouldn't take too long. Cirt 19:02, 3 December 2007 (UTC).
    • Sounds good. The sourcing may take some time. I saw your userspace page, but I think I might just restructure it after Golden Globe Award for Best Director - Motion Picture right there in the article, if that's okay. Cirt 19:05, 3 December 2007 (UTC).
      • Thanks for the help, this will be fun to work on, and I'd love to get a WP:FL under my belt so I get more experience with how that works. Cheerio for now! Cirt 19:07, 3 December 2007 (UTC).
  • On second thought, maybe we can work in your subpage, I'm just trying to figure out how to get the rest of the years like you did 2006 and 2007... Cirt 19:13, 3 December 2007 (UTC).
    • I'm slowing down regarding finding additional sources for this. If you can find any more sources for citing the various awards and nominations, it'd be appreciated. Cirt 04:33, 4 December 2007 (UTC).
  • I copied your sandbox page back into Primetime Emmy Award for Outstanding Animated Program (for Programming Less Than One Hour), because it looked like all the formatting was done. If you know of any other sources or information on missing nominations, it would be greatly appreciated. Cirt (talk) 23:02, 5 December 2007 (UTC).

[edit] Annies

That is a suprise, you'd think it'd be nominated in a few of them I mean the animation was brilliant for a 2D film. Ah well, 4 noms isn't bad - Julie should win and it may get writing, but Brad Bird will get the other two categories its in... Gran2 15:25, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

I'm not sure, its possible, but its still an image of Homer... Better check with someone at the Commons. Gran2 07:19, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
The Independent is a reliable source, but that's definitly a joke article. Funny though, I'd love more British references in the show, but it'll never happen. Gran2 18:56, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
Oh God... She was terrible first time out... but again? Although I don't know its that's really accurate, Digital Spy is useable and reliable source, but they aren't always right. I mean yeah they got the fact that the Bob episode was Funeral for a Fiend right, but that isn't always the case. Plus the article doesn't actually mention anything about here previous appearance. Gran2 19:11, 4 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] RR 2008

Maybe I was a little harsh in my wording. However, this match will be Orton or Jericho vs. Triple H or Hardy. At Vengeance, none of the wrestlers were known. I don't think it should be listed as TBD vs. TBD (I think it should be Orton vs. TBD since Orton is the current champ), but I can't revert it again. I can see where you are coming from though. TJ Spyke 03:34, 4 December 2007 (UTC)

Try to ignore TJ. He loves to throw around the word "vandalism", even if it's not vandalism. His opinion on what the word means is a bit broad. RobJ1981 07:38, 4 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] inductees of Canada's Walk of Fame

It is difficult to judge given that your table is currently quite mangled. However, given its size of without images, I'm not sure including as many image as possible in the table is such a good idea. Although I'm not sure it would integrate that well here, I've always favored stringing a selection of the best images on the right side of the table (cf. in List of recordings preserved in the United States National Recording Registry or Grade I listed buildings in Bristol). It's also more practical, as you don't have to go through the trouble of adding a column to the table. Circeus 19:20, 4 December 2007 (UTC)

The notes are, to me, interesting comment about the subject's specific notability. As such I'm more inclined to say let's keep the notes if adding images means dropping them. But I wouldn't revert if you disagree. In either case, I don't think images in the table would work that well. Circeus 19:33, 4 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Text align

I'm trying to make a list using the # format, but the list is way too long down the left side of the page. I need to know the code for making text align to the right side of the page. I tried something like this <font align = left> Text </font> <font align = right> Text </font> but it didn't work. Any ideas? --Simpsons fan 66 21:12, 4 December 2007 (UTC)

I tried your method, but it makes the text move down. Check your reply on my page and note the difference between theme song and reply. --Simpsons fan 66 23:15, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
Ok, that works great, thanks! BTW, I'm watching El Viaje Misterioso de Nuestro Jomer (The Mysterious Voyage of Homer) Great episode. --Simpsons fan 66 00:00, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
The code works great, but I'm wondering about the arrangment of the list. Its got 33 entries. Should I put all the list in order down the left side then down the right side, or should it go in order from left to right? BTW, why are all the awards on your page hidden? --Simpsons fan 66 06:55, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
Awesome, thanks. --Simpsons fan 66 23:18, 5 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Simpsons

would you know how to do this? Ctjf83 talk 03:27, 5 December 2007 (UTC)

ok, i guess it is a portal [1] i guess i can ask them how they did it, cause i dont understand how they get it Ctjf83 talk 03:39, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
actually could a section be added to our portal?Ctjf83 talk 03:41, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
you're the man for the job! i'm just gonna add part of this convo to the post on the proj page so ppl know whats going on Ctjf83 talk 03:49, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
the List of The Simpsons couch gags page is actually protected, does the tag need to be readded? Ctjf83 talk 23:49, 5 December 2007 (UTC)

Have u ever seen It's a Wonderful Life? i'm trying to understand the refs in the commentary for Miracle on Evergreen Terrace but have never seen it. someone already has it listed in the CR section, but i want to source it, and make sure it is accurate. also, if u wanna look it over to see if it is rdy for a GAC...and i dunno why but when i edit it, it has diff ppl listed, but in the ref section it all lists the same person Ctjf83 talk 22:34, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

well??? Ctjf83 talk 09:05, 8 December 2007 (UTC)
i suppose i could wait...Realty Bites is still a candidate after a month, it is extremely back logged Ctjf83 talk 18:58, 8 December 2007 (UTC)
someone put at the top of Miracle on Evergreen Terrace that this is the 3rd Christmas episode...i'm only thinking it is the 2nd, after the series premiere...which is it? Ctjf83 talk 19:26, 8 December 2007 (UTC)
Whichever it is, it is unsourced. Cirt (talk) 19:30, 8 December 2007 (UTC).
Never mind that...i forgot about Marge Be Not Proud. But can you fix my refs. they are all coming up as the same person Ctjf83 talk 21:33, 8 December 2007 (UTC)

User:Hammersoft is going and deleting images right now on List of recurring characters from The Simpsons‎ Ctjf83 talk 18:53, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

ya remember we had that prob a few months ago..i'll look to find the user after lunch Ctjf83 talk 19:07, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
guess what Wednesday brings...the unblocking of your dear friend GuruAskew Ctjf83 talk 19:26, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
Are all the specific years in Homer's biography section relevant? Or are we trying to limit those, being it is a fictional show Ctjf83 talk 17:30, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
a user took out the baby pic, and sax pic of Lisa, i readded the sax one, since it is a key component of her character...should we add a sax section, to show that the pic should be left in...i know how these anti-fair use people are now Ctjf83 talk 20:56, 13 December 2007 (UTC)
sound good?? Ctjf83 talk 23:44, 13 December 2007 (UTC)

Miracle on Evergreen Terrace was reviewed, and I fixed what the reviewer wanted, for the most part. He said to make the CR section sound less like an unbulleted list...can you look, and figure out what to do? Ctjf83 talk 21:54, 14 December 2007 (UTC)

nice job in the CR section...thats why i called on you, i knew you'd be able to improve it! thanks, Ctjf83 talk 22:12, 14 December 2007 (UTC)
How did u get the couch gag so early for today's episode? Ctjf83 talk 01:02, 17 December 2007 (UTC)
LOL, right when your message came up, i was checking your contributions to see if you did the protection...i figured you did, thank goodness!! HAHA, see, if i get my admin eventually it will be easier to do stuff like that! Ctjf83 talk 02:01, 17 December 2007 (UTC)
you wanna fix my citing on Eternal under the CR section...i can never get it right Ctjf83 talk 00:45, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Archive

Reason I picked 30 days as prior to our archiving last night the oldest article was from 6 weeks ago and our typical talk page covers atleast a month worth of topics. 15 days is in my opinion still too short because conversations need to stay around awhile for people to see them before they are archived. -Djsasso (talk) 03:58, 5 December 2007 (UTC) Hi, this is Supermario65. I was wondering how I could make a user file like this where I could put things like, for example, my info and sticker things like: This user is a Super Smash brother. Supermario65 (talk) 22:26, 5 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] TV.com

At bare minimum, I'll give you the TV.com credibility, but something as obvious as the link between the episode name and the old Delta motto is hardly something that would be rationally challenged. WP:V and WP:CITE give guidance that contested information or that which is likely to be challenged need be referenced. I don't think this qualifies by any stretch. Perhaps the best solution is to keep the statement and remove only the reference tag? VigilancePrime (talk) 03:54, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
I can understand the GA angle. Still, it doesn't need a source; much of Wikipedia is not directly referenced for the same reason. (Some articles are hyper-sourced for the opposite reason!) Anyway, I'll leave it to you and/or others post-this-conversation as I think we're on the same page overall. VigilancePrime (talk) 04:20, 6 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Merging

Hi Scorpion0422, I've perceived you've added the mergeto-tag at least to these articles: Maude Flanders, Sideshow Mel, Rod and Todd Flanders, Jacqueline Bouvier (The Simpsons) and Bumblebee Man and merged them away a little later. In my opinion, this is not a good way. The articles haven't been got out with "lawful" method (=a deletion discussion). Articles aren't should redirect and merge if deletion of the article haven't been decided with a deletion discussion. All these articles are certainly more notable than any of them over 400 articles about Simpsons episodes in English Wikipedia, and no one hasn't been going to redirect and merge them to nowhere. For example, Maude Flanders has article in 11 other language versions. --Movedgood (talk) 14:50, 6 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] FYI new userbox

In addition to {{User Featured Topic}}, which only allows a user to specify a specific topic, here is {{User Featured topics}}, which simply states the number of topics an editor helped promote to WP:FT. Cirt (talk) 19:59, 6 December 2007 (UTC).

[edit] RE:Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/List of Green Bay Packers first-round draft picks

Hey Scorpion0422, I just wanted to let you know that I answered your question about the above FLC if you hadn't noticed, here is the version with your suggestion about highlighting current players. I don't know if it adds much due to the fact that a very small percentage of the players are active members of the Packers, but its not a big deal for me. Any extra comments you had would be great! Thanks for your time.
Gonzo fan2007 talk ♦ contribs 19:58, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

Hey I just wanted to clarify your comment, do you like the list as it is now, or do you think it would be best to highlight the active players, and secondly do you support this list, cause your comment is sorta confusing :-) Thanks!
Gonzo fan2007 talk ♦ contribs 03:24, 8 December 2007 (UTC)
Gotcha, haha sorry your last message on the FLC page was a little cryptic to me, but thanks for the comments! :-)
Gonzo fan2007 talk ♦ contribs 03:32, 8 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] re: Your move of Wikipedia:Featured list

See Portal talk:Featured content#move_to_portal_namespace. The responses varied between support and not really caring. Cheers, —Ruud 03:31, 8 December 2007 (UTC)

Uhm.. but there isn't anybody opposing it... —Ruud 03:34, 8 December 2007 (UTC)
You are right. I have added a note on all the relevant talk pages and will wait for a couple more days to see what other people think about it. —Ruud 12:51, 8 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] THOH

Hmmm... I don't think you're going to find an image that perfectly represents all the episodes. A picture of the opening sequence might not be too bad, though. Zagalejo^^^ 04:48, 8 December 2007 (UTC)

Ah, that's true. Well, I don't think there's anything particularly bad about the picture we have now. Zagalejo^^^ 05:07, 8 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Cirt

We need to give some sort of award to Cirt. He's been working nonstop for the last 4 days on the portal. He's added two sets of fully functional quote sections and hes going to keep working on future nominations. He needs a barnstar or something. Any suggestions? --Simpsons fan 66 10:42, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

How about the {{subst:The Special Barnstar|message ~~~~}} Special Barnstar? The Special Barnstar may be awarded to a user as a gesture of appreciation for a specific reason, when there is no other barnstar which would feel as appropriate. Its either that or the working mans barnstar, but he already has two of them. --Simpsons fan 66 05:40, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] DYK

Updated DYK query On 9 December 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Dave Murray (skier), which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

--Zzyzx11 (Talk) 15:25, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] RE:Wikipedia:Featured sound candidates/Kimi ga Yo 1930

I didnt know if you also close Featured Sound candidates, but I recently became the fourth support of Wikipedia:Featured sound candidates/Kimi ga Yo 1930 and since it has been up there for almost two months I think it deserves to be closed. Since youre the only one I know who closes Featured stuff I figured I would prod you :-)
Gonzo fan2007 talk ♦ contribs 23:32, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

I wouldnt have prodded you except that FS doesnt seem to garner a lot of traffic and the nom has been up for a long time and is unanimously supported, so I figured it deserves to be featured. Thanks again!
Gonzo fan2007 talk ♦ contribs 23:47, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] The Simpsons Ride

I was attempting to integrate the trivia into the article. Maybe it wasn't perfect, but it was a start. --blm07 01:17, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Fair Use images

I read it as *all* FU images; unfortunately I forget where I saw it but I suspect this will cause some controversy. Will look into it some more. --Rodhullandemu (please reply here - contribs) 19:29, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Principal and the Pauper

I'd like to work on it eventually, but at the moment, I'd prefer to dabble in some non-Simpsons topics. If you want to edit it, though, go ahead. Zagalejo^^^ 22:21, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Simpsons recurring characters images

I see you had to get rid of many images on the recurring characters page again. It was interesting to see them all come back since the last time you did it. Anyway, I was wondering if you would be against including the images removed in some other article, such as the characters first appearances episode, an episode they are featured in, etc. Because they images are still available for use, and they should be somewhere, so this is a good way to do it. It think the images add a little something to the articles. What do you think about this idea? Rhino131 (talk) 22:53, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

Thats probably true, but when I have the opportunity I will try it out and see what happens. Hopefully they will stay, but I won't put up a fight if they are removed. Thanks for your input. Rhino131 (talk) 01:06, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
Would you happen to know the first appearance of some characters that are not listed on the recurring page? Specifically the Blue Haired Lawyer, The Sea Captain, and any others you can think of. Thanks. Rhino131 (talk) 00:44, 14 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] WP:LOTD

You are the nominator of a WP:FL that was promoted in the last month. I am inviting you to participate in nominations and voting in a List of the Day experiment I am conducting at WP:LOTD.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTD) 23:51, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

I will omit you from future postings.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTD) 23:58, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
You happen to be highly productive and thus end up on all my lists of people to contact. I am just notifying people who have produced newly promoted lists in the last 30 days.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTD) 00:08, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] DVDVDVD

I've only listened to the main commentary, not the director's one, which will be separate citation. But its easier to have each commentary as just one citation. Anyway the DVDs pretty good, commentaries are great, deleted scenes are good but there arn't many, film quality is good, but it is letterbox format, but you can't them all. So its pretty good. Gran2 07:19, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] WP:FL

You seem to handle many of the FLC closes. Would you like them partially automated like the FAC process? Gimmetrow 18:29, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

I run it semi-automated. It looks for new tranclusion in the pass/fail logs, tags them as closed, moves the page if it's a fail (to make room for a later nomination), and updates the article/list talk page. You would still edit the log to add the transclusion, and put the article on the WP:FL list. Here is an example set of bot edits for a former FA. Gimmetrow 18:38, 12 December 2007 (UTC)
I had asked at WP:FL. Point is it's easy to do this at FL based on what's been done at FA for months. I already routinely convert the talk pages of FLs to {{ArticleHistory}}. Gimmetrow 18:42, 12 December 2007 (UTC)
At FAC Raul doesn't add the close boxes; the bot does that. However, Raul also doesn't add a vote count. And yes, there is a potential lag time between a discussion being added to an archive, and the bot dealing with it. Typically its an hour or so but has run as long as 24 hours before. Gimmetrow 18:49, 12 December 2007 (UTC)
Here's how the FAC archive log looks. Gimmetrow 18:53, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

To close, you would add the discussion transclusion to the monthly log page. If you want to add the vote count, you could do that without adding the close tags. The bot uses the close tags to determine which articles it's worked over already. I'll have to create the FL close templates since it uses a different background color. Gimmetrow 19:09, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Restarting FLCs

Given that Leeds seasons FLC has degenerated into a peer review, how do you feel about "restarting" it. This wipes it clean and gives editors the opportunity to state their current positions. It is a mess at the moment. I can't read any of it. What do you think? Woody (talk) 21:47, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

Fair enough. I will probably go ahead and do it tommorrow. I am annoyed that it has turned into a PR though. Woody (talk) 23:34, 12 December 2007 (UTC)
Archive it ;) Gimmetrow 06:36, 13 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] List of Academy Award records

I promise to work on getting cites for this one. I closed it becuase it was obviously notable. I agree with all the tags. Give me a few weeks. Bearian (talk) 21:50, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] GG

Golden Globe nom... this bodes well. Gran2 15:51, 13 December 2007 (UTC)

I'll try and think of some good ones over the weekend, and add as many as I can. Gran2 22:52, 14 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Lists of Michigan Wolverines football receiving leaders

O.K. I made the change to uniform top 25. Can you come revisit Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/Lists of Michigan Wolverines football receiving leaders.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTD) 00:09, 14 December 2007 (UTC)

You are probably aware that after 10 days they start assessing support, so a fairly quick look would be helpful. I see you are online.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTD) 22:37, 14 December 2007 (UTC)
O.K. so now that I kind of need one more support can you support?--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTD) 20:41, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Talk:List of Academy Award records

Thanks for the kudos, I think.... :-) I like to think that I'm being given a little slack as a relatively new admin. This is one of those articles that probably needs more than 5 or 7 days' work, which is the time alloted for WP:AFD, but could be a Good Article some day. I'm not a stereotypical cashmere-wearing gay man, but I know quite a few, and this is one of those articles that they would read for information. I'm also certain that quite a few college and high school students would also want to look at it while making reports. But I'll be the first to vote delete if it is not cleaned up with reliable cites soon. Bearian (talk) 16:57, 14 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Portal:The Simpsons/Did you know‎

  • It's okay if you want to add entries to Portal:The Simpsons/Did you know‎, but both for formatting on the main portal page, and for uniformity with other standards on Wikipedia, it would be best to conform with the rules set out at WP:DYK for T:DYK. That is - hooks should be no longer than 200 characters, should be phrased in the form of a question, and the information should be sourced in the original article, which should be bolded in the hook itself. Barring citations included in the articles themselves, a citation could be included on the hook's individual page. I will set the seed back to 5 until these requirements are met. Cirt (talk) 20:11, 14 December 2007 (UTC).
    • Thanks for adding sources! And thanks for shortening the hooks! Now that we have more hooks, the portal is really dynamic. Cirt (talk) 20:35, 14 December 2007 (UTC).

[edit] The Editor's Barnstar

The Editor's Barnstar
For your amazing work improving the quality of articles to Good and Featured status, and your unmatched work improving lists to Featured List status, as well as your collaboration and hard work with others to improve articles along a theme. Thank you, Cirt (talk) 20:41, 14 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Life of Brian

I don't see anything on the page that looks like a source for that fact, so if there is one, add a citation for it. -- Scorpion0422 21:56, 14 December 2007 (UTC)

Since I couldn't figure out what you actually wanted with that statement since you seemed to be doubting the existence of a tv programme that other editors acknowledged existed I dug up these references

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Monty_Python%27s_Life_of_Brian&diff=113136943&oldid=112932971 and it's on Youtube if you care to look .

Wow. That was so hard. I can see why you couldn't do that.

And wow it was so hard to find that reference . Garda40 (talk) 22:36, 14 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] "alternatively" vs."on the other hand"

I have no idea what makes "on the other hand" unprofessional (!?!), but one thing I am absolutely certain of: "alternatively" certainly does not express the meaning wanted here, as there is no alternative involved on any semantic level whatsoever that can justify it, whereas "on the other hand" carries exactly the meaning we want. If the word suits the sentence, use it. Circeus (talk) 06:21, 15 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Orphaned non-free media (Image:THOH16.jpg)

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[edit] Wikipedia:Today's featured article/December 17, 2007

I just saw that this has been scheduled. Congratulations! Cirt (talk) 12:28, 16 December 2007 (UTC).

[edit] Monty Python's Life of Brian

In response to your query (in an edit summary, not the best place to carry on a conversation), did you look at the article talk page? Curious Blue (talk) 16:05, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Eternal Moonshine confusion

Diff - I'm confused, did you not realize you had removed Ctjf83 (talk · contribs)'s comment? I feel bad, we're all on the same side here, trying to improve Simpsons articles (and working well at it by the way), I'd hate for any of us to not get along. Cirt (talk) 00:01, 18 December 2007 (UTC).

  • Okay, sounds good to me. Cirt (talk) 00:34, 18 December 2007 (UTC).

[edit] The Simpsons image

Sorry. My bad.-- Vintei  Talk  00:43, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Reverts

Hi, Rather than just saying "Rv" in your summary, I would like to know a detailed explaination why there is reverting in what I have written. Also, I heard there has been a change of rule of these references in the simpsons wikiproject (Minimization of cultural references, cleanups etc) like what you just did?

Thanks.

SomeFormOFhuman

04:23, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

I see... But how can my statement be unsourced? That's the reason why I linked it to the article about Mudflap girl. Should the source be an external one? Oh yes speaking of other Simpson Episode Articles, we should look at the Cultural Reference section; some of them are extremely... How should I put it.. unnecessary. I should remove them if I can... Hey, in the mean time, I got some architecture articles to clean up too...

See you soon.

SomeFormOFhuman

04:41, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Portal:The Simpsons/Character quote

  • Portal:The Simpsons/Character quote -- Two things: Would you perhaps consider waiting on adding more until the Featured Portal discussion has completed, or at least gotten some traction? Also, if you are adding new entries, just be mindful of the precedent we've set up at Portal talk:The Simpsons/Character quote - where we try to have some variety of where the quotes come from, not repeating a quote from a character or episode until others have also been repeated, and some already have duplicates, per the list. Cirt (talk) 18:10, 18 December 2007 (UTC).
    • Okay, as long as we try to keep it dynamic and with as much variety in which characters/episodes we use as possible, which it looks like you are doing - then that's great. As for the FLC canvassing issue, I think if a user asks for my input, if I do provide it, I'll probably do so in the form of Comment, instead of Support. Cirt (talk) 18:14, 18 December 2007 (UTC).
  • Looks like your quote additions overweighted a few Seasons, but as no particular character has more than 2 quotes, I think that's still okay. Thanks for the work! Cirt (talk) 19:02, 18 December 2007 (UTC).
    • I agree for the most part. Though perhaps we should avoid duplicate quotes from the same episode, and should list episodes used next to each season at Portal talk:The Simpsons/Character quote ? That might be more helpful. Cirt (talk) 19:09, 18 December 2007 (UTC).

[edit] Biggererer

[edit] Simpsons WikiProject Triple Crown

I, Durova, am pleased to award this special edition triple crown to WikiProject The Simpsons and its hardworking volunteers. DurovaCharge! 00:13, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
I, Durova, am pleased to award this special edition triple crown to WikiProject The Simpsons and its hardworking volunteers. DurovaCharge! 00:13, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

Thank you for all your hard work, and may you wear the crowns (and donut) well. DurovaCharge! 00:13, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Rv on The Simpsons

Hi, this is Nazamo here. Regarding your reverting of the added content to The Simpsons, I wanted to just cut and paste what the Wikipedia guide says about reverting. I made a good faith edit, and added comments that a notable, reputable scholar made about the show. The guide says "Do not revert good faith edits. In other words, try to consider the editor "on the other end." If what one is attempting is a positive contribution to Wikipedia, a revert of those contributions is inappropriate unless, and only unless, you as an editor possess firm, substantive, and objective proof to the contrary. Mere disagreement is not such proof. See also Wikipedia:Assume good faith." As well, the section says "If you feel the edit is unsatisfactory, improve it rather than simply reverting or deleting it." The section says "Reverting is used primarily for fighting vandalism, or anything very similar to the effects of vandalism."Nazamo (talk) 02:50, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Featured portal discussion

Thanks for the co-nom, glad to have your help! Cirt (talk) 03:39, 19 December 2007 (UTC).

[edit] Emmys

When I saw that Cirt had started work on the Animated Emmy page, I decided to improve one of the principal awards as well. So, basing it on the Golden Globes FL: Primetime Emmy Award for Outstanding Drama Series. Its nothing really special, but have you got any suggestions as to how to improve it further? Gran2 14:05, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

I'll take a look at some of the other FLs. As for the dispute, I kinda don't really care whether it is or isn't included (although it does seem a bit like advertising), so I'll probably stay out of the discussion for now. Additionally, an IP just added notability tags to several episode pages, all of which I removed. As it was an IP - who used the films notability tag anyway and some of the episodes were GAs - I think its was more likely vandilism than a real cause for concern, but there you go. Gran2 14:53, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] NWO

thanks for the help against these newbs.LifeStroke420 (talk) 03:43, 22 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Major Brothers

Go here for reasons on issue.TrUcO9311 T / GB 04:18, 22 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Orphaned non-free media (Image:Lisa and Snowball V.jpg)

Thanks for uploading Image:Lisa and Snowball V.jpg. The media description page currently specifies that it is non-free and may only be used on Wikipedia under a claim of fair use. However, it is currently orphaned, meaning that it is not used in any articles on Wikipedia. If the media was previously in an article, please go to the article and see why it was removed. You may add it back if you think that that will be useful. However, please note that media for which a replacement could be created are not acceptable for use on Wikipedia (see our policy for non-free media).

If you have uploaded other unlicensed media, please check whether they're used in any articles or not. You can find a list of 'image' pages you have edited by clicking on the "my contributions" link (it is located at the very top of any Wikipedia page when you are logged in), and then selecting "Image" from the dropdown box. Note that all non-free media not used in any articles will be deleted after seven days, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. Thank you. BetacommandBot (talk) 14:53, 22 December 2007 (UTC)

It isn't worth expressing your dissatisfaction at Betacommand, since it doesn't work. I got blocked for 48 hours for telling him what I think about it him, and so has Ceoil. Ceoil initially got blocked indefinitely. Really, Betacommand isn't worth the effort. You get more hassle than the worth of it, despite the fact you're really active in contributing content. Seems Wikipedia values image tagging more than writing articles, even though Wikipedia is an encyclopaedia. Strange mathematics, if you ask me. LuciferMorgan (talk) 12:07, 23 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Season 4

Sorry, but all I have are seasons 3 and 5, not 4. I would help out if I had it, but I don't. But if you guys ever decide to do 3 or 5 for a FT, than please tell me and I could probably help out. I do have The Simpsons: A Complete Guide to Our Favorite Family, which I thought I heard was useful, so I can give you information from it if you need it. Season 4 does look like a good choice, though, since you already have a few GAs and one FA. Again, sorry Rhino131 (talk) 02:34, 23 December 2007 (UTC)

Wow, a featured list. I would be delighted to help. Season 4 already has 1 FA (all credit to you and gran2), and 6 GAs which leaves 15 articles to get to GA. I think I should do that, since I don't feel confident enough to get an episode to FA. Unfortunately I'm about to go on holiday until the 19th January. When I get back I will start work on a new GA. However my next school year is going to be quite hectic since I'm taking some advanced subjects, so I don't know how much wikiwork I'll be able to fit in. Still, count me in! --Simpsons fan 66 04:13, 23 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] RE: Major Brothers

I'm sorry that I didn't get a chance to help, but I see it has been taken care of. Best editing. Nikki311 04:27, 23 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia:Long range TFA requests

Please see our discussion at Wikipedia talk:Long range TFA requests. Thanks, Sarsaparilla (talk) 05:20, 23 December 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Re:Harry and the Potters discography

You cannot oppose an feature list status to a list merely because it "doesn't have enough content". Please see, Wikipedia:Featured list criteria it is not a requirement. The closest requirement is "comprehensive" which the article is, as it lists all releases from Harry and the Potters. If you can find a release, unreleased song or complication appearance, e.t.c. by Harry and the Potters, then that is reason enough to fail it, however if you believe it is "doesn't have enough content" that is not a valid reason. Could you please change your vote to Support or find requirements, before allowing it to receive your positive vote. Hpfan9374 (talk) 23:17, 23 December 2007 (UTC)

Could you please attend to my request at the earliest convenient time, at Wikipedia:Featured_list_candidates#Harry_and_the_Potters_discography Hpfan9374 (talk) 04:42, 24 December 2007 (UTC)
Thankyou, and I did say at your earliest convenient time. Hpfan9374 (talk) 04:46, 24 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Simpsons Christmas

What is with this template? Did some random user just create it? Ctjf83 talk 01:39, 24 December 2007 (UTC)

do you think i should go through and delete where the episodes say "the # Christmas episode" Ctjf83 talk 01:49, 24 December 2007 (UTC)
well in that case, do I delete all that say Christmas, or just the ones that aren't 100% Christmas..such as Simpsons Roasting on an Open Fire, Marge Be Not Proud, Miracle on Evergreen Terrace, 'Tis the Fifteenth Season, and Simpsons Christmas Stories...and then how do u decide Kill Gil...it is mostly Christmas, but then they go through the whole year, so I wouldn't consider it Christmas Ctjf83 talk 01:55, 24 December 2007 (UTC)
I just deleted all references to being a Christmas episode as there will probably be conflicts on what to include and what not to Ctjf83 talk 02:20, 24 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Barnstar

The RickK Anti-Vandalism Barnstar
For reverting much vandalism in wrestling-related articles. Well done and keep up the good work. Your help is truly appreciated. Gavyn Sykes (talk) 05:00, 24 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Principal and the Pauper

Sure, I'll look at it soon. Zagalejo^^^ 06:37, 24 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Your revert of Wikipedia talk:Featured list candidates

I've undone your revert. I suspect you didn't read it closely enough. As one of the more active FLC reviewers/closers, I strongly encourage you to enter the debate (specifically the second link). Cheers, Colin°Talk 17:11, 24 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Merry Christmas!

Just like to say thanks for all your help throughout the year, and have a Merry Christmas and a happy new year! --Simpsons fan 66 23:28, 24 December 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] All Singing, All Dancing

Do you perhaps wanna try to get this up to GAC? Fr4zer was working on it, but he doesn't have any contributions to wiki at all since December 3. I'd do it, but I hate this episode. Ctjf83 talk 18:55, 26 December 2007 (UTC)

well? Ctjf83 talk 20:30, 26 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] GAC

If you want something reviewed faster, why not try to take on reviewing some of the other GACs within the section where your GAC is? That would help clear the backlog and speed up the chances that someone will review your GAC next. Cirt (talk) 20:10, 26 December 2007 (UTC).

  • Dunno if you've noticed, but I've been clearing the backlog in the GACs at the television section lately.  :) But yeah, I've been getting tired of it lately too. Cirt (talk) 20:15, 26 December 2007 (UTC).

[edit] Simpsons "Sabias que?" in Spanish Film Portal

  • Check it out Portal:Cine - Thought you'd enjoy that. Cirt (talk) 22:30, 26 December 2007 (UTC).
    • ...that in The Simpsons Movie there are approximately 8 parodies of other films, and 7 of hotels, videogames, and television series? (Then the link takes you to a section of their article on the movie, listing the various parodies in the film.) It's kinda neat to see this stuff in other projects in other languages. Cirt (talk) 22:36, 26 December 2007 (UTC).

[edit] Das Bus

would you care to look this over, and see if it is GAC ready? Ctjf83 talk 23:27, 27 December 2007 (UTC)

are you going to do it, or shall I ask someone else? Ctjf83 talk 05:24, 28 December 2007 (UTC)
review! :) Ctjf83 talk 01:20, 29 December 2007 (UTC)
Looks good? Ctjf83 talk 03:04, 29 December 2007 (UTC)


[edit] Featured portal

Thanks for all your help. Cirt (talk) 07:30, 28 December 2007 (UTC).

[edit] Re:FLCs

Okay thank you. Do you know if there is a FL director, whom that is. As length is an issue for many featured list candidates, I want it to be 'summed-up' once and for all, for me and Wikipedia, as a whole. Hpfan9374 (talk) 08:08, 28 December 2007 (UTC)

Thanks, I'll try contacting Circeus now. Hpfan9374 (talk) 23:46, 28 December 2007 (UTC)
Can we please come to some consensus regarding your FL vote at Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/Harry and the Potters discography, in order for it to be closed. Thank you. Hpfan9374 (talk) 22:49, 29 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Dave Gahan discography promotion

At the risk of being a negative Nancy, why was Dave Gahan discography promoted? I stand by my Oppose vote, and also point out that my vote was entirely actionable. I realize the FLC was open for quite some time, but the nominator didn't even make any attempt to address my concerns since I made them out: not even to argue them. Obviously, not only do I think the list is not FL quality, mainly due to some unreliable sources, but I also don't think it was a wise decision to close the FLC, much less promote it. Drewcifer (talk) 10:25, 28 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Wrestlemania III

Not to make a big fuss about it, but I don't think that the DVD release is notable. Every single WWE PPV has been released on DVD, and none of the PPV articles include anything about DVD releases. The fact is that sporting events are produced mainly for the live audience, and are taped additionally for people who couldn't be there. Obviously, because of this fact, the DVD releases of many live events of every other sport are not covered in their articles. However, I will alsotake the issue to WT:PW. Cheers, Lex T/C Guest Book 23:46, 28 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Help!

In Dumbbell Indemnity, M3tal H3ad and Equazcion murdered my article. First, M3tal H3ad does his horrible review, obviously unaware of the way Simpsons episodes are like, and then Equazcion comes in, before I even know the article was reviewed, and absolutely kills the article, removing things he thinks should not be there. The two then decide to FAIL the article, without me every even knowing that the article was reviewed. As I mentioned before, neither of them know what the typical Simpsons GA episode is like, and I am furious. Please help me do something. I wish to bring back all the information I had before except perhaps the plot. Again, please help me. xihix(talk) 18:56, 29 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Principal and the Pauper

Hey,

I've done a little bit of cleanup, but I'd like to watch the episode and listen to the commentary before doing a more throrough copyedit. I'll try to get to it sometime next week. Zagalejo^^^ 21:50, 29 December 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Simpsons Project

Under the announcements, do you want to put a "merge" section, so we know if there are merge discussions going on, such as there is for Snake? Ctjf83 talk 21:32, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] FYI

You mentioned sounds, and these are public domain. Cheers, Cirt (talk) 21:35, 31 December 2007 (UTC).

[edit] Happy New Year, its a new sock...

[2], [3]. Although it might not be intentional, I'm pretty sure some internet browsers generate new IPs automatically everything you log on. But this one doesn't seem to want to give up, let alone actually read policies... Anyway, Happy New Year all the same! Gran2 22:44, 31 December 2007 (UTC)