Talk:Scouts Australia

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I have added a template for links to articles for Scouting in each State. Please be bold and add some of them. Each State article should have [[Template:Scouts Australia States]] as the last line. Note this template also puts the article in the [[Category:Scouting in Australia]], so there is no need to add that at the end of the article. --Bduke 20:46, 30 January 2006 (UTC)

I have started adding the articles on Scouting in the various States and Territories. You can see from the template at the bottom of the Scouts Australia page what progress I have made. The Scouting in South Australia page is poor on the history of Scouting in SA. Their web page is very light or difficult to find about the history or maybe both. The NT web pages are much better, in spite of the fact (or perhaps indeed because of the fact) that all their records were destroyed in Cyclone Tracy. Please add to the articles, particularly the SA one which looks rather thin. --Bduke 18:54, 4 February 2006 (UTC)

All State and Territory articles now exist as stubs, but they need more information. I also added one on Australian Scout Jamborees. --Bduke 03:16, 3 March 2006 (UTC)

Would current political struggles between states, branch et al be appropriate for this article?

In particular, the uniform debate (Mmm, Drama).

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I really have no direct knowledge of political struggles or the uniform debate. However if you do them in a neutral point of view they might be appropriate for the State and Territory articles or if it is a national perspective on Scouts Australia. Go for it. If you get it wrong someone will help you. --Bduke 02:57, 18 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Scouting museums

I have added a section for Australia and added the Heritage Centre in Victoria. Can anybody else add others. Also I have heard that all the Scouting museums are going to be moved in total to the Jamboree next year. This is a notable item to add to the article but we need a cite for it. Anybody got one? --Bduke 02:50, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

Are there any Australian Scouting memorials? --Bduke 02:54, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Scout/Guide equality on WP

I have just pointed out on Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Scouting that we are not dealing with Guides on an equal footing with Scouting. I think we should. Can we lead the way in Australia? Both organisations are organised on a State basis I believe, so we do not have the problem that UK has of the Counties/Areas being different. So could we change "Scouting in State XXX", e.g. Scouting in Victoria, to "Scouting and Guiding in State XXX" and add the Guide material? Should we change Category: Scouting in Australia to Scouting and Guiding in Australia? Importantly, could someone knowledgable write Guides Australia?

Why do I raise it now? On the WikiEN-l e-mail list there has been a discussion about sexism on WP and one woman editor reported that after discussing this on the list, she was overwhelmed by e-mails from other women saying they were intimidated from contributing to the list and to some WP discussions. This can not continue.--Bduke 11:00, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

Another thought. We could move Scouts Australia to Scouts and Guides in Australia. We already mention Guides and non-WOSM Scouts, so we could aim to properly cover all Scouting and Guiding in the country. Another question, should it be "Scouting and Guiding" or "Guiding and Scouting"? --Bduke 11:38, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

The discussion on Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Scouting has become quite extensive. Please take a look. --Bduke 07:15, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

After discussion on Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Scouting I have created a stub for Guides Australia and also for The Girl Guides Association of the Solomon Islands, Girl Guides Association of Papua New Guinea and Guides New Zealand. Please expand them. Then we need Guide State and Territory articles. The debate is going against a combined Scouting and Guiding in Australia article. The debate on categories is moving towards having Category:Guiding in Australia but there is not much to put in it as of now. --Bduke 00:42, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Norfolk Island and Australian Indian Ocean Territories

Christmas and Cocos Irsland are the Indian Ocean Territory. I have done much OR on Scouting and Guiding in these places. None of it amounts to very much and none of it is verifiable, so none of it can be added to any article. The information I have as a set of quotes from various e-mail messages is:-

  • "There has been a scout group on the Cocos Islands 15 years or so ago and there has not be any since then"
  • "I do not believe there is any Scouting or Guiding Association active on Christmas Island"
  • (Christmas Island) "I don't think there is any at the moment. But, there used to be a small group of brownies some 7-8 years ago"
  • "There is a scout group on Norfolk Island which is administered by the NSW branch international section. This group is currently inactive due to a shortage of leaders"

Given a decline in numbers of Scouts Australia, it seems to me doubtfull that there will ever be Scouting on these islands with very small populations. --Bduke 03:55, 19 December 2006 (UTC)