Talk:Scouting in popular culture

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[edit] Footnotes

If a movie or TV show has an article, then cites such as the IMDB reference belong in the article. The footnotes are going to get long enough on this as is. --Gadget850 ( Ed) 13:47, 24 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Stamps

If anyone want to add notable stamps, go ahead. The SOSSI site has good references, but there are an enormous number of stamps out there. --Gadget850 ( Ed) 19:52, 27 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Merge from List of Eagle Scouts

Propose that Fictional Eagle Scouts be merged to here, and the following text added to the beginning of List of Eagle Scouts:

During almost a century of existence, Scouting has entered into many elements of popular culture, including movies, TV and books. A number of Eagle Scouts have appeared in fiction, as noted in Scouting in popular culture. --Gadget850 ( Ed) 16:17, 30 March 2006 (UTC)

I'm okay with this, but I can see it in either spot. Rlevse 16:51, 30 March 2006 (UTC)
Actually, some of the Eagles have already crept into this list. I don't think we need it both places. --Gadget850 ( Ed) 16:54, 30 March 2006 (UTC)
Yep, I meant one spot or the other, not both. But where it ends up should link back to the other. Rlevse 19:58, 30 March 2006 (UTC)
  • Someone should just do it. evrik 13:37, 6 April 2006 (UTC)
    • I will do this in the next day or so. --Gadget850 ( Ed) 14:08, 6 April 2006 (UTC)
      • Just did it. evrik 15:02, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Criteria

I think we need to tighten up the criteria a bit before this list strangles on cruft. We should only include references to Scouting only where they are central to the plot of the book or show. We should not include references where Scouts have only a minor appearance. By this criteria, the 3rd Rock from the Sun episode "I Enjoy Being a Dick" would be excluded, whereas "I Brake for Dick" would be excluded included. --Gadget850 ( Ed) 15:54, 16 August 2007 (UTC)

Ed, could you clarify this. You have used "excluded" twice, when I think you intended to use it once and use "included" once. I have no idea about the episodes you mention, so do not understand the example. However, I agree with your central argument. --Bduke 22:33, 16 August 2007 (UTC)
Good catch. These are just two examples for the TV section We would include "I Brake for Dick" because Boy Scouting in central to the theme of the episode. "I Enjoy Being a Dick" merely mentions Girl Scouts. Some more I would remove (this is not exhaustive):
  • Justice League and Justice League Unlimited; Superman is given the nickname of Boy Scout most notably by Batman.
  • Lost episode "Hearts and Minds" (2005) US; Johnathan Locke notes that he was a Webelos Scout when he learned how to tie knots and identify birds.
  • Lost episode "The Other 48 Days" (2005) US; Goodwin tells Ana Lucia Cortez that he is in the Peace Corps, and compares it to grown up boy scouts.
  • The Sopranos episode Made in America (2007) US; Cub Scouts and a leader appear in the diner scene at the end of the episode.

And move these from TV to the fictional Eagle Scout list (I think most of them are already there, so they are duplicates):

  • CSI: Crime Scene Investigation episode "Toe Tags", 05 October 2006 US; Greg Sanders, played by Eric Szmanda is called a Boy Scout while rappelling down a cliff and he replies: "Eagle Scout! I didn't earn a chestful of merit badges for nothing". (cf Fictional Eagle Scouts)
  • Doctor Who episode "Delta and the Bannermen" (1987) UK; Stubby Kaye's character Weismuller states that he was an Eagle Scout.
  • King of the Hill episodes "Flush With Power" (2000) and "Unfortunate Son" (2002) mention that Hank Hill is an Eagle Scout.
  • Star Trek: Enterprise episode "Rogue Planet" (2002) US; Captain Jonathan Archer and Malcolm Reed are revealed to be Eagle Scouts.

--Gadget850 ( Ed) 22:58, 16 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] 'Brussel Sprouts'

I remember a controversial TV film in the 1970's broadcast in the UK with the above title (Cockney Rhyming slang for 'Scouts'). It caused a furore amongst the Scouting establishment at the time and has never been mentioned since. Did it really exist or is it a figment of my imagination?

Mspice2215 17:34, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

It is spelled Brussel Sprouts. I did not find anything in a quick search. An early pejorative jeer towards Boy Scouts was "Here come the Brussel Sprouts, The stinking, blinking louts." --Gadget850 ( Ed) 17:47, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

Spelling mistake corrected!  :-) I was still a Scout when this came out and can remember reading about it in 'Scouting Magazine' The film portrayed a bumbling and incompetant Scout Master, I never saw it myself. Mspice2215 11:19, 8 October 2007 (UTC)