Talk:Scouting in Poland

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[edit] History merge

  • Not merge while both articles need work, especially the history one, I think it is big enough to stand on its own. I propose a summary of it here, with a main link to the primary history article.Rlevse 15:34, 8 January 2007 (UTC)
    • no longer oppose merge given updates. RlevseTalk 10:54, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
comment-the reason I suggested the merge is, like Scouting in Russia, the early histories all start from a common root-unlike, say, Ukraine, where each developed very independently. Wasn't suggesting to merge because either is a stub, yet it's not pages and pages like History of the BSA. Chris 15:54, 8 January 2007 (UTC)
Maybe a "History of Scouting in Eastern Europe" page if they have a common root.Rlevse 16:05, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

I don't know anything about scouting so I either should be ignored or thought of as an observer. What you have is a pretty empty page here and a difficult to read (and find) article about early scouting in Poland. Suggest move history to here (until you have a lot more). Suggest maybe take out a seperate entry for the man who is described so much on the other page. Victuallers 19:06, 20 January 2007 (UTC)

That it is difficult to find is another reason I suggest the merge. Chris 21:02, 20 January 2007 (UTC)
  • not merge Szumyk 10:46, 2 June 2007 (UTC)
  • comment then someone had better clean this turkey up. It is orphaned, and it is badly written. Chris 09:46, 28 August 2007 (UTC)
I've cleaned up the article (most of the information was on an uprising and a paramilitary type group and not actually about scouting. This has been rectified and the article is much much much shorter and a lot more managable. I think now that it's been reduced in size and had it's scope "fixed" to actually cover what it should be, I think it should be merged into this article as a sub section. Radagast83 03:22, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:LilijkaZHP.jpg

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[edit] Confusion

I find this article incredibly confusing as there is no coherent timeline. Indeed the first date mentioned is 1912, when a scouting movement was supposedly started in Greater Poland. However, no mention is made of the ZHP, which was founded in 1910, until well into the article (see ZHP article), and merely as a passing reference. I find this rather bewildering, seeing as the ZHP was and still is by far the dominant scouting body in Poland.

Indeed this article appears to be mostly about one Henryk Śniegocki, with extracts from his memoirs seemingly the primary source for most of the text, and very little to do with scouting in Poland.

This article needs a complete overhaul, as I think readers new to the topic would be highly mislead.--TomL77 (talk) 02:10, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

Note ZHP has its own article. Chris (クリス) (talk) 02:18, 14 January 2008 (UTC)
Indeed, but you would think the two would be in some way related, being of similar topics, but they are not. --TomL77 (talk) 13:39, 14 January 2008 (UTC)
You'd be most welcome to overhaul it, that's what the 'pedia is about. :) Chris (クリス) (talk) 20:10, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Communist Poland

The article doesn't describe scouting/pioneers in Communist Poland.Xx236 13:52, 17 May 2007 (UTC)