Talk:Scouting in New York
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[edit] Adirondack District
I'm adding Adirondack District to Twin Rivers Council, and removing Adirondack Council. Adirondack is now a part of Twin Rivers. I'll also be adding Rotary Scout Reservation's Official Link to the links section.72.226.77.21
[edit] Greater New York
New York appears to be different from most councils. If I have it right, the council name is Greater New York Councils (note the s), it is divided into five bouroughs that are then divided into districts. Please correct me if I am wrong, but it appears that the list here is a bit wrong. --Gadget850 ( Ed) 15:52, 8 August 2006 (UTC)
Gadget, you are correct. GNYC is divided into the 5 boroughs. They also own the Ten Mile River camping reservation. I added a couple of minor details under the Cedarlands Scout Reservation section, since ive been on staff there for 3 years. —Preceding unsigned comment added by R.a.dangler (talk • contribs)
So: Greater New York - Bronx Council should actually be Greater New York Councils- Bronx Borough, correct? As I recall, FDR was involved with 10 Mile. --Gadget850 ( Ed) 10:35, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
[edit] OA Lodges?
I see some listed, but they aren't very in-depth... any plans to add more information? (I'd add information for the ones I know about, but I don't want to make it look strange by having information for some and not all... 128.153.143.44 20:23, 27 August 2006 (UTC)
Please, add what you know- that is the only way this is going to grow. --Gadget850 ( Ed) 21:12, 27 August 2006 (UTC)
all redy did with my lodge KtemaqueTrackMonkey 00:22, 28 August 2006 (UTC)
[edit] "22 Councils"
Hasn't this decreased with some recent mergers?
[edit] Spruce Ridge Camp
Girl Scout facility in the Adirondacks, belongs to which Council? Chris 23:37, 14 September 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Historical council information to be folded in
- New York Beacon 1917 1918
- New York Brockport 1917 1918
- New York Cortland 1917 1918
- New York Dunkirk 1917 1918
- New York Ellenville 1917 1918
- New York Hornell 1917 1918
- New York Huntington 1917 1918
- New York Mamaroneck 1917 1918
- New York Olean 1917 1918
- New York Smithtown 1917 1918
- New York Tarrytown 1917 1918
- New York Salamanca 1917 1919
- New York Peekskill 1918 1919
- New York Corning 1918 1919 ended 1919
- New York Hamburg 1917 1920
- New York Oswego County 1919 1920
- New York 365 Amsterdam 1919 1925 ended 1925
- New York 378 Warren County 1920 1922 changed name to Glens Falls 378 1922
- New York 364 Albany 1916 1923 changed name to Fort Orange 364 1923
- New York 409 Troy 1919 1924 changed name to Troy Area 409 1924
- New York 399 Schenectady 1915 1926 changed name to Schenectady County 399 1926
- New York 378 Glens Falls 1922 1927 changed name to Mohican 378 1927
- New York 380 Columbia-Greene 1924 1927 changed name to Columbia County 380 1927
- New York 388 Washington County 1927 1930 merged into Mohican 378 1930
- New York 361 Montgomery County 1930 1935 merged into Sir William Johnson 377 1937
- New York 377 Fulton County 1923 1937 changed name to Sir William Johnson 377 1937
- New York 380 Columbia County 1927 1942 changed name to Fort Orange 364 1942
- New York 409 Troy Area 1924 1947 changed name to Uncle Sam 409 1947
- New York 364 Fort Orange 1923 1963 merged into Fort Orange-Uncle Sam 364 1963
- New York 409 Uncle Sam 1947 1963 merged into Fort Orange-Uncle Sam 364 1963
- New York 364 Fort Orange-Uncle Sam 1963 1971 changed name to Governor Clinton 364 1971
- New York 364 Governor Clinton 1971 1990 merged into Twin Rivers 364 1990
- New York 377 Sir William Johnson 1937 1990 merged into Twin Rivers 364 1990
- New York 684 Saratoga County 1924 1990 merged into Twin Rivers 364 1990
- New York 399 Schenectady County 1926 1991 merged into Twin Rivers 364 1991
- New York 378 Mohican 1927 1998 September 1 merged into Twin Rivers 364 1998 September 1
- New York 364 Twin Rivers 1990
- New York 366 Auburn 1919 1924 changed name to Cayuga County 366 1924
- New York 366 Cayuga County 1924
- New York 368 Binghamton 1918 1920 changed name to Susquenango 368 1920
- New York 368 Susquenango 1920 1922 changed name to Binghamton 368 1922
- New York 388 Norwich 1921 1924 merged into Binghamton 368 1924
- New York 368 Binghamton 1922 1925 changed name to Susquenango 368 1925
- New York 383 Johnson City and Endicott 1922 1925 changed name to Fairplay 383 1925
- New York 381 Ithaca 1917 1926 changed name to Thompkins County 381 1926
- New York 381 Thompkins County 1926 1929 changed name to Louis Agassiz Fuertes 381 1929
- New York 383 Fairplay 1925 1932 merged into Susquenango 368 1932
- New York 381 Louis Agassiz Fuertes 1929 1975 merged into Baden-Powell 381 1975
- New York 383 Tioughnioga 1940 1975 merged into Baden-Powell 381 1975
- New York 368 Susquenango 1925 1998 January 1 merged into Baden-Powell 368 1998 January 1
- New York 381 Baden-Powell 1975 1998 January 1 merged into Baden-Powell 368 1998 January 1
- New York 368 Baden-Powell 1998 January 1 http://sites.tier.net/badenpowell/
- New York 390 Syracuse 1915 1923 changed name to Onondaga County 390 1923
- New York 408 Watertown 1921 1925 changed name to Jefferson and Lewis Area 408 1925
- New York 390 Onondaga County 1923 1929 changed name to Onondaga-Cortland 390 1929
- New York 408 Jefferson and Lewis Area 1925 1932 changed name to Jefferson Lewis 408 1932
- New York 403 Saint Lawrence County 1921 1938 changed name to Saint Lawrence 403 1938
- New York 390 Onondaga Cortland 1929 1940 changed name to Onondaga 390 1940
- New York 365 Oswego County 1927 1969 merged into Hiawatha 373 1969
- New York 390 Onondaga 1940 1969 merged into Hiawatha 373 1969
- New York 403 Saint Lawrence 1938 1982 merged into Seaway Valley 403 1982
- New York 408 Jefferson Lewis 1932 1982 merged into Seaway Valley 403 1982
- New York 373 Hiawatha 1969 1998 December 31 merged into Hiawatha Seaway 373 1998 December 31
- New York 403 Seaway Valley 1982 1998 December 31 merged into Hiawatha Seaway 373 1998 December 31
- New York 373 Hiawatha Seaway 1999January 1 http://www.cnyscouts.org
- New York Poughkeepsie 1917 1919 changed name to Dutchess County 374 1919
- New York 761 Sullivan County 1926 1930 merged into Orange County 392 1930
- New York 392 Orange County 1922 1931 changed name to Orange-Sullivan 392 1931
- New York 392 Orange-Sullivan 1931 1958 changed name to Hudson-Delaware 392 1958
- New York 374 Dutchess County 1921 1996 January 1 merged into Hudson Valley 374 1996 January 1
- New York 392 Hudson-Delaware 1958 1996 January 1 merged into Hudson Valley 374 1996 January 1
- New York 683 Rockland County 1924 1996 January 1 merged into Hudson Valley 374 1996 January 1
- New York 374 Hudson Valley 1996 January 1
- New York 375 Elmira 1915 1926 changed name to Chemung County 375 1926
- New York 375 Chemung County 1926 1927 changed name to Elmira Area 375 1927
- New York 402 Steuben County 1922 1931 changed name to Steuben Area 402 1931
- New York 375 Elmira Area 1927 1947 changed name to Sullivan Trail 375 1947
- New York 375 Sullivan Trail 1947 1991 merged into Five Rivers 375 1991
- New York 402 Steuben Area 1931 1991 merged into Five Rivers 375 1991
- Pennsylvania 779 General Sullivan 1927 1992 July 1 merged into Five Rivers 375 1992 July 1
- New York 375 Five Rivers 1991 http://www.fiverivers.org
- New York 385 Niagara County 1920 1922 changed name to Lockport Area 385 1922
- New York 367 Batavia 1917 1924 changed name to Genesee and Wyoming Counties 367 1924
- New York 367 Genesee and Wyoming Counties 1924 1925 changed name to Genesee 367 1925
- New York 385 Lockport Area 1922 1937 changed name to Lewiston Trail 385 1937
- New York 367 Genesee 1926 1994 January 1 merged into Iroquois Trail 385 1994 January 1
- New York 385 Lewiston Trail 1937 1994 January 1 merged into Iroquois Trail 385 1994 January 1
- New York 385 Iroquois Trail 1994 January 1 1994 August 1 changed name to Iroquois Trail 376 1994 August 1
- New York 376 Iroquois Trail 1994 August 1
- New York 376 Erie County 1921 1949 merged into Buffalo Area 380 1949
- New York 373 Buffalo 1912 1949 merged into Buffalo Area 380 1949
- New York 387 Niagara Falls 1917 1925 changed name to Niagara Falls Area 387 1925
- New York 387 Niagara Falls Area 1925 1944 changed name to Niagara Frontier 387 1944
- New York 387 Niagara Frontier 1944 1967 merged into Greater Niagara Frontier 380 1967
- New York 380 Buffalo Area 1949 1967 merged into Greater Niagara Frontier 380 1967
- New York 380 Greater Niagara Frontier 1967
- New York 382 Jamestown 1921 1925 changed name to Chautauqua County 382 1925
- Pennsylvania 499 McKean County 192403 1926 changed name to McKean-Potter Area 499 1926
- New York 750 Cattaraugus 1926 July 1929 changed name to Seneca 750 1929
- New York 382 Chautauqua County 1925 1932 changed name to Chautauqua Lake Area 382 1932
- Pennsylvania 499 McKean-Potter Area 1926 1936 changed name to McKean-Potter-Cameron 499 1936
- New York 382 Chautauqua Lake Area 1932 1941 May merged into Chautauqua County 382 1941 May
- New York 407 Lake Shore 1929 January 1941 May merged into Chautauqua County 382 1941 May
- Pennsylvania 499 McKean-Potter-Cameron 1930 1947 changed name to Elk Lick 499 1947
- New York 382 Chautauqua County 194105 1973 July merged into Allegheny Highlands 382 1973 July
- Pennsylvania 499 Elk Lick 1947 1973 July merged into Allegheny Highlands 382 1973 July
- New York 750 Seneca 1929 1975 September merged into Allegheny Highlands 382 1975 September
- New York 382 Allegheny Highlands 1973 July
- New York 386 Nassau County 1916 1997 September 1 changed name to Theodore Roosevelt 386 1997 September 1
- New York 386 Theodore Roosevelt 1997 September 1 http://www.trcbsa.org
- New York New Rochelle 1918 1920 changed name to Westchester County 1920
- New York 410 White Plains 1917 1922 changed name to Fennimore Cooper 410 1922
- New York Westchester County 1919 1922 1/2 merged into Hendrick Hudson 379 1922
- New York Westchester County 1919 1922 1/2 merged into Siwanoy 401 1922
- New York 370 Mount Vernon 1915 1923 merged into Bronx Valley 370 1923
- New York Bronxville 1919 1923 merged into Bronx Valley 370 1923
- New York 379 Hendrick Hudson 1922 1951 merged into Washington Irving 388 1951
- New York 410 Fennimore Cooper 1922 1951 merged into Washington Irving 388 1951
- New York 411 Yonkers 1915 1954 merged into Washington Irving 388 1954
- New York 370 Bronx Valley 1923 1958 merged into Siwanoy-Bronx Valley 401 1958
- New York 401 Siwanoy 1922 1958 merged into Siwanoy-Bronx Valley 401 1958
- New York 401 Siwanoy-Bronx Valley 1958 1962 changed name to Hutchinson River 401 1962
- New York 401 Hutchinson River 1962 1973 merged into Westchester-Putnam 388 1973
- New York 388 Washington Irving 1951 1974 merged into Westchester-Putnam 388 1974
- New York 388 Westchester-Putnam 1974
- New York 391 Ontario County 1917 1924 changed name to Finger Lakes 391 1924
- New York 391 Finger Lakes 1924 http://205*2.76*4/bsafingerlakes.org/index.html
- New York 393 Oneonta 1921 1924 changed name to Otsego and Schoharie Counties 393 1924
- New York 393 Otsego and Schoharie Counties 1924 1925 changed name to Otsego-Schoharie Area 393 1925
- New York 407 Delaware County 1924 1926 merged into Otsego-Schoharie 393 1926
- New York 393 Otsego-Schoharie Area 1925 1927 changed name to OtSchoDela 393 1927
- New York 393 OtSchoDela 1927 http://www.otschodela.org
- New York 395 Champlain Valley 1926 1931 merged into Adirondack 394 1932
- New York 394 Adirondack 1924
- New York 389 Oneida 1922 1923 changed name to Madison County 389 1923
- New York 400 Sherrill 1919 1925 merged into Rome 398 1925
- New York Herkimer County 1919 1923 merged into Utica 406 1927
- New York 398 Rome 1916 1929 changed name to Fort Stanwix 398 1929
- New York 406 Utica 1915 1937 changed name to Upper Mohawk 406 1937
- New York 389 Madison County 1923 1968 merged into Iroquois 395 1968
- New York 398 Fort Stanwix 1929 1968 merged into Iroquois 395 1968
- New York 395 Iroquois 1969 1981 merged into Land of the Oneidas 395 1981
- New York 406 Upper Mohawk 1937 1981 merged into Land of The Oneidas 395 1981
- New York 395 Land of The Oneidas 1981 http://www.borg.com/~masharp/oneid
- New York 397 Rochester 1916 1926 changed name to Rochester Area 397 1926
- New York 363 Red Jacket 1934 1943 merged into Otetiana 397 1943
- New York 397 Rochester Area 1926 1943 merged into Otetiana 397 1943
- New York 397 Otetiana 1943
- New York 400 Herkimer County 1928 1934 changed name to General Herkimer 400 1934
- New York 400 General Herkimer 1934
- New York Patchogue 1919 changed name to Suffolk County 404 1919
- New York 404 Suffolk County 1919
- New York 405 Kingston 1916 1919 changed name to Ulster County 405 1919
- New York 405 Ulster County 1919 1930 changed name to Ulster-GREENE 405 1930
- New York 766 Greene County 1926 1930 merged into Ulster County 405 1930
- New York 405 Ulster-Greene 1930 1950 changed name to Rip Van Winkle 405 1950
- New York 405 Rip Van Winkle 1950 http://www.rvwbsa.org
- New York Greater New York Advisory 1915 1925 changed name to Boy Scout Foundation of Greater New York 719 1925
- New York 719 Boy Scout Federation of Greater New York 1925 1936 changed name to Greater New York 719 1936
- New York 719 Greater New York 1936 1967 renumbered Greater New York 640 1967
- New York 640 Greater New York 1967 http://www.bsa-gnyc.org/
- New York 372 Bronx 1915 1967 changed name to Greater New York, Bronx 641 1967
- New York 641 Greater New York, Bronx 1967 http://www.bsa-gnyc.org/
- New York 369 Brooklyn 1911 1967 changed name to Greater New York, Brooklyn 642 1967
- New York 642 Greater New York, Brooklyn 1967 http://www.bsa-gnyc.org/
- New York 384 Manhattan 1918 1967 changed name to Greater New York, Manhattan 643 1967
- New York 643 Greater New York, Manhattan 1967 http://www.bsa-gnyc.org/
- New York 371 Queens 1915 1967 changed name to Greater New York, Queens 644 1967
- New York 644 Greater New York, Queens 1967 http://www.bsa-gnyc.org/
- New York 396 Staten Island 1928 1968 changed name to Greater New York, Staten Island 645 1968
- New York 645 Greater New York, Staten Island 1967 http://www.bsa-gnyc.org/
[edit] Camp Russell
My suspicion is that the section just added was copied from camp promotional material, but I can't confirm this with a web search. Regardless, it is not written in encyclopediac tone. --— Gadget850 (Ed) talk - 13:50, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
- Agreed, it should be edited heavily. Cedarlands Scout Reservation was the result of a merge, but it too could use an edit. --evrik (talk) 19:13, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Inline external links
This article is full of inline external links, a no-no. See Wikipedia's External links policy. Many of them could be converted to references, though often the same site appears in a reference in the same section. They really have to go. Wikipedia is not a directory. This is fundamental stuff. Also, this is not the place to advertise-- see the Camp Russell section. -- Mwanner | Talk 23:36, 26 April 2008 (UTC)