Talk:Scouting in Hawaii

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[edit] Liliuokalani

Shouldn't this be be clarified as "deposed Queen Liliʻuokalani"? --Gadget850 ( Ed) 18:27, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

I'm trying to find an answer over at Wikipedia:Naming conventions (names and titles), although the exceptions make this more confusing. These types of problems are supposed to be worked out in Wikipedia:WikiProject_Hawaii/Manual_of_Style. I'll have someone else take a look, but my guess is that we just remove the Queen in the title. —Viriditas | Talk 19:45, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
I wasn't trying to make a long dialog on this. It was just knowing that Hawaii was a republic in the 1890s and Scouting started in 1907, the title of queen seemed out of place. "Former" or "deposed" would certainly work here. --Gadget850 ( Ed) 20:03, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
Ok, the question is, does a Polynesian monarch retain their title when their country is annexed? If you take a look at official government documents like Liliuokalani_v._The_United_States, the government refers to her as "former" and "ex-queen", but considering that this is the same government that overthrew her, I'm not sure if she retained her title or not. Like I said, I think it's best to just remove the Queen in the title for now. After all, that's the name we use for the actual article. There is no need to state that she was former or deposed until we find out if Polynesian monarchs retain their titles. I suspect that they don't, but I just don't know. —Viriditas | Talk 05:24, 13 June 2007 (UTC)
The Queen formerly abdicated in 1895. Does she retain her title? I'm going to go with former for now. —Viriditas | Talk 06:27, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

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