Talk:Scouting in Germany

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[edit] Removed section on "German Scouting abroad"

I removed the following section from the article:

==German Scouting abroad==

A number of associations offers Scouting to people of German descent living outside of Germany. They form several groups, among them:

• Südtiroler Pfadfinderschaft (SP, South Tyrolean Scout Association). the Catholic Scout :association of the German-speaking minority in South Tyrol
• Deutscher Pfadfinderbund Namibia (German Scout Association of Namibia, formerly Deutscher Pfadfinderbund Südwestafrikas, the German Scout Association of South-West Africa), a small association open mainly to boys and girls of German descent

The internationally recognized German associations and the minority associations are members of the Deutschsprachige Konferenz der Pfadfinderverbände (DSK) [1] [2].

My reasons:

• The article deals with Scouting in Germany, not with "German-speaking Scouting". If we would take this second viewpoint, it would be necessary to include also Austria, Luxembourg, Switzerland, Belgium and France (Alsace) - in all these regions exist German speaking organizations and units - but we would leave the systematic of organizing "Scouting by ..." by countries.
• The DSK is an umbrella of Central European organizations within WOSM or WAGGGS; it was started as a language based meeting but has developped to a common platform including some clearly non-German (language) organizations.
• Both organizations mentioned are not affiliated to any German (country) organizations. The SP maintains some contacts to the DPSG but is far stronger connected to Austrian, Italian and Slowenian organizations. The DPB Namibia is totally on its own, nearly all existing contacts broke during the last years, it is no member of the DSK.
• There are, in fact, very few German (country) Scout units abroad of Germany, perhaps four or five: two or three in Spain, one in Italy, one in the UK. Only one of these belongs to the four WOSM/WAGGGS-recognized associations since there is a very strict policy concerning the establishment of German units out of bonds. The international non-recognition of German (country) Scouting in the 1920s and early 1930s is strongly connected with the existence of numerous German (country, culture) groups in the adjacent countries mostly affiliated to one of Germany's associations. --jergen (talk) 10:03, 26 November 2007 (UTC)