Talk:Scottish term days

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Please do not leave contributions to this debate here. Please see the discussion at Talk:Quarter days.--Mais oui! 17:56, 9 November 2005 (UTC)

  • I have removed merge template, as consensus is opposed to merge.--Mais oui! 14:51, 12 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Date of Whitsunday under Julian and Gregorian calendars

I'm following up on a comment by Robert Douglass (User:4.243.209.92) at Talk:Quarter days#Error in article Scottish Term Days:

"In the article Scottish Term Days, it says that in the late 1700's, the date May 15 (gregorian) was the same as May 26 (julian). This is backwards. In fact at that time the date May 15 (julian) was the same as May 26 (gregorian)."

Now, I've been trying to get to the bottom of this, and a few things are apparent:

  1. May 15 (Gregorian) does not translate to May 26 (Julian)
  2. May 15 (Julian) does (I think) translate to May 26 (Gregorian), by the late 1700s. The calendars were ten days apart when the new calendar was first introduced, but after a hundred years or so the Julian would have accumulated an extra leap day, making them 11 days apart. (I stand to be corrected on this)
  3. However, modern Whitsunday (as a term day) is indeed 15 May, according to several websites I've looked at. Rather than aliging with the old Julian date of 26 May, this would be the 4th May in the Julian calendar. That's 22 days earlier in the year than what it previously had been. But these are the dates given here!

Another couple of things that don't make sense. I've been comparing two accounts, from the Scottish Records Association (1) [1] and ancestry.com (2) [2]. (1) says that the Scottish Whitsunday was May 26, then May 15 under the Gregorian calendar, and that the Gregorian calendar was adopted in Scotland in 1599. (2) says that the Scottish Whitsunday was a movable term day (7th Sunday after Easter), until it was fixed at 15 May in 1693. These two accounts are contradictory, the second making a little more sense than the first...

Does anyone have any more information on this? Fuzzypeg★ 01:44, 23 May 2008 (UTC)