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[edit] Peterhead & Elgin City

Text from Scottish Football League, but concerning this league, says "When the SPL decided to expand from ten to twelve clubs in 2000 the league elected two new clubs, Peterhead and Elgin City." This would be consistent if this article were older, but a list of the SPL teams shows 12 SPL teams, none of them including the two in question; on the same article, the two are (still?) included in SFL. --Jerzy 15:55, 2003 Nov 12 (UTC)

It means that the league (SFL) elected them into membership to replace the two clubs they lost to the SPL, not that the SPL elected them to their membership. Big Jim Fae Scotland

[edit] Scottish Premier League 1-0 Scottish Premierleague

If you look at the SPL's site [1], you will see that it says "The Official Scottish Premier League Website". So the page should be kept at Scottish Premier League
SimonMayer 13:46, 5 Apr 2004 (UTC)

The sponsorship name does seem to be Bank of Scotland Premierleague though, so I've added that to the article. Sjorford 14:02, 5 Apr 2004 (UTC)

Can anyone find a citation for the new name: 'HBOS Premiership'?

[edit] HBOS Premiership?

No-one I know has heard from any official sources that the name has been changed to the "HBOS Premiership". This change would make no sense as HBOS is a purely corporate identity and has no real significance where consumers are concerned. Besides, the Bank of Scotland's (or HBOS's or Halifax & Bank of Scotland's) sponsorship of the SPL ends at the end of season 2006-07 and will not be renewed. This makes a name change for this season even more ridiculous.

A search on Google for "HBOS Premiership" does return several hundred results though, so it can't just have been a figment of someone's imagination. Kennethmac2000 21:03, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

I think that is because English people sometimes apply the names of their competitions to competitions in other leagues. 82.41.202.199 17:41, 21 August 2006 (UTC)


[edit] Record Win

The Record Win on the page states it as being the 8-1 scoreline my beloved Dunfermline got hammered by last year.

There are however been a few 7-0's down the years and surely they hmust have at least some equal claim to the title, as the margin of victory was seven goals.—Preceding unsigned comment added by Ryan86 (talk • contribs)

Nah, sorry mate - doesn't work that way - 7-0 might arguably match 8-2, but 8-1 will always beat 7-0 - more goals! :P Camillus (talk) 12:15, 16 October 2006 (UTC)
How does 8-2 match 7-0? 7-0 Is a seven-goal lead, with a clean sheet, surely making it just as high a win as 8-1, possibly higher as the other team failed to score! 86.132.164.8 14:14, 3 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] SPL Record: All-time appearances

On the all-time records page, the goal difference doesn't add up with Rangers as it leaves them 100 goals short. Just a small point! lol

I appreciate the SPL all-time appearance record is stated as being held by Barry Smith on the official SPL site but is strikes me that this is somewhat out of date, given Barry Smith left the SPL a couple of seasons ago and there are still players playing who have featured in every SPL season. Steven Pressley, for example, has 272 SPL appearances and Russell Anderson has 266. I'm sure there are several others with more than 242, anybody have any suggestions? Caledonian Place 09:14, 11 January 2007 (UTC)

I have changed this to Steven Pressley, who has 277 SPL apperances now. I had accidently added some pre-SPL lge appearances to Russell Anderson, he only has 230 in the SPL-era (did he miss a season thorugh injury?)
I did a quick check of current squads for veterans of every SPL season, and only came up with (correct to 22/2/07, if soccerbase is up to date): Barry Nicholson (240), Scott Severin (230), Darren Young (208), Stefan Klos (208), Scott Wilson (192), Roddy McKenzie (153). Other potentials, who haven't played every season, such as Neil Lennon, Barry Ferguson, Jim Hamilton,Stevie Crawford, Martyn Corrigan are all in the low 200s. Again, if anyone else knows differently, please change.
Given that Pressley is a current player and his total is liable to change every week, I added the proviso Correct to the end of the 2005-06 season, at which point he had made 257 SPL appearances.Caledonian Place 00:56, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] LOCK THIS PAGE FOR GOD'S SAKE

Look at the vandalism committed by bored Old Firm fans! I presume the people (or person) involved are Celtic fans. Lock the page ASAP because it's very childish. I wish Old Firm fans would just grow up. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Psyklax (talk • contribs) 13:26, 14 February 2007 (UTC).

Sorry, I forgot to sign my comment. I've searched the section on vandalism to see how to lock a page from unregistered users (the ones doing the vandalism) but it doesn't say how. Anybody know? It'll save a lot of bother. Psyklax 13:31, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
I have put a request for semi-protection here. Bubba hotep 13:45, 14 February 2007 (UTC)


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ru:Чемпионат Шотландии по футболу --JukoFF 15:47, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] PES6 Option File (Little OT)

I see that on PES6 there are only 2 SPL teams, and are therefore using all the blank teams to turn my game into a game which has all the SPL teams and SF1 teams except Airdrie United and Ross County as i can't fit two on and they are the lowest ranked in SF1. So i was just wondering, if i was to create all the Other Leagues C into SPL & SF1 teams how many would download it. I have made the base for this and am creating the kits and players now. I will get most of the stats for players off of FIFA but will create the others based on other skills, etc. Celticfan383 14:17, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Worth Remarking on Lopsided League

Is it notable that one of two teams always wins the league? The article doesn't refer to this, but it strikes me as an unusual characteristic of a sports league.

Really? It happens in England too, either Chelsea or Man U or Arsenal... and Spain, and Holland and France and Italy and Germany...--81.129.79.158 16:46, 13 May 2007 (UTC)

Not to mention Portugal, Belgium, Ukraine, Croatia... plus whats the point in highlighting something that the reader can then scroll down to discover for themselves? --82.9.29.178 11:27, 20 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Entry Criteria

Possibly should mention that certain clubs such as Dunfermline and St.Johnstone, who suffered serious financial trouble in order to have their stadiums reach the criteria (their fans) are offended by the lowering of the criteria.

[edit] Prize Money

Can we get some info on the prize money for finishing 1st, 2nd etc?

[edit] per head of population, more people in Scotland watch their domestic top level league

Per head of population, more people in Scotland watch their domestic top level league than any other nation in Europe.[1]


WRONG !

its Iceland

[edit] Under-21 ruling

Can someone add a bit of information about the exact under-21 ruling compared to other leagues?

[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:Scottish Premier League logo.jpg

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BetacommandBot (talk) 19:43, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Standings

This can (and often does) result in the team placed 7th having a higher points total than the team placed 6th. It's not immediately obvious as to how this happens from the article, though it is explained on one of the season pages. Why are the pools divided into top and bottom instead of equal(ish) strength (1,4,5,8,9,12 & 2,3,6,7,10,11) for the last section and the table contunued to be ranked on points as normal?

The theory behind it was that the top half would play against each other to decide Championship and European places, while the bottom half would decide relegation.

Relegation battles generally only involve 2 or 3 teams, so the other bottom 6 teams are left with meaningless games. Although it regularly happens that 7th has more points than 6th, this can be partially explained by the 7th placed team having easier fixtures to finish with. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rossi 1983 (talk • contribs) 14:18, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Map

Can someone fix the map showing locations of each team? I know Pittodrie and Tannadice will be waterlogged, but they dont play in the North Sea. Thanks ← κεηηε∂γ (talk) 09:22, 22 May 2008 (UTC) Strike that, seems it was a problem on my end. ← κεηηε∂γ (talk) 20:35, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

The problem with the map is that it doesn't work properly at certain screen resolutions. Perhaps someone has the skills/software to reproduce the map manually and insert it as an image? Franky843 (talk) 14:40, 2 June 2008 (UTC)