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[edit] To be added:

Scott mills is a loveable chap and holds host to possibly the best show on the radio well done scott Wikipedia would like to reward such dedication and devotion with Wikipedia gold award. Please note no actual gold will be given!

As a youth, Scott styled his hair in a similar fashion to Andy Crane, a children's television celebrity. He dislikes musical theatre.

87.113.2.70 16:30, 19 January 2006 (UTC)

This comment has been edited and removed by an Admin-Reason: Bad language used —Preceding unsigned comment added by DeFFiance (talk • contribs)

[edit] Er, yeah..

Scott Mills was vandalising this himself earlier, or so I'm told. I believe that's why it's locked. Hedley 23:31, 19 January 2006 (UTC)

On the 18th January 2006 Scott invited his Radio 1 listeners to edit/add to his entry on wikipedia.org, leading to a torrent of abuse such as 'Scott you scrotum bag' and 'Chappers is so called cos his anal lips are prone to chapping...' on his and other related DJ's pages. —Preceding unsigned comment added by IP user (talk • contribs)

I readded this - Don't see why it was removed. It's valid. Hedley 23:38, 19 January 2006 (UTC)
Actually, it is interesting to note that, overall, this indcident has lead to an improvment to this article, and indeed to one or two of the other radio 1 dj pages.... possibly a vindication of Wikipedia's philosphy that the more people who come to the site, the better it gets... Robdurbar 17:16, 20 January 2006 (UTC)

exactly...its makin it alot more...intrestin!

It also raises the question: is every radio 1 dj notable? Do they each need thier own page, do we care that "Scott often fills in for Chris Moyles when Chris is away on holiday." ? Regards, Ben Aveling 22:08, 22 January 2006 (UTC)
If wikipedia were limited to things I cared about, it would be a hell of a lot smaller. And less useful. -- GWO't

What an irrelevant and arrogant comment. Wikipedia isn't about you and your interests.

No doubt. But would it be less useful were we to reduce this article to only the encyclopedic bits? Regards, Ben Aveling 12:54, 24 January 2006 (UTC).

The official complaint by Wikipedia to the BBC can be found here. WilliRennen 14:54, 2 February 2006 (UTC).

[edit] Irony

It is ironic that 90% of the vandalism that Mills encouraged people to put in this article has been deeply homophobic in nature. Still, encourage people's worst nature, and you shouldn't be surprised with what you get. -- GWO I LIKE SCOTT! I LIKE HIM A LOT!!!

[edit] Merge from The Scott Mills Show

I don't think The Scott Mills Show needs an existence outside of Scott Mills. Neither has any fame that distinguishes it from the other. This should become a subsection of the Mills article. GWO

Agreed Robdurbar 17:02, 2 February 2006 (UTC)
Disagree as when Scott does other shows he is covering, eg its the "Chris Moyles show with Scott Mills" when he fills in on Breakfast. BBC R1 is marketing that slot be it drive or breakfast as the XYZ show. Similarly when Zane Low goes back to NZ for his 3 week annual break it's "The Zane Low show with Steve Lamack and Annie Mac" or "The Zane Low show Annie Mac and Hugh Stevens" --Pickle 16:01, 3 February 2006 (UTC)
Well yes, but we can cover both in one article. The Scott Mills Show is, in essence, a subset of Scott Mills. -- GWO
Oh, you lot just hate Scott after he told his viewers to vandalise your beloved wikipedia!
Does his radio show get a lot of viewers then.....? ChrisTheDude 14:31, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
Personally I quite enjoy the show, though he's no Chris Moyles... but I've merged given the genereal lack of contention. Robdurbar 14:07, 12 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Catch-phrases

Perhaps a mention of his catch phrases such as a) Good Morning! b) It's only bloody Friday (bleee Friday?) should be mentioned?, especially the origins of a) Pickle 16:03, 3 February 2006 (UTC)

I have just altered the "it's only bloody friday" thing again (someone changed it back) because the official BBC spelling (and at last i have a cite for this is BLEY, as in "it's only bley friday". The only slight issue is the cite will disappear in a few days... Shame. But hopefully by then people who think I'm wrong will have had a chance to check out the cite for themselves. Ajpb (talk) 09:13, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

Quite correct that it is what is on there, but it certainly used to be 'bloody friday' when he first started doing it, as it was adopted from Sara Cox. OwainDavies (about)(talk) edited at 18:15, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
Ah interesting. I just assumed it was Mills' way of avoiding the accusation of swearing on air! Oh well. I think this one is settled for now - unless they throw us a curved ball and produce next friday's podcast with "Bloody" in full!? Ajpb (talk) 20:49, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] unoffical mills

I think the unofficial mills has gotten a little overlong. Could it be trimmed to a sentance in the external links section, just to give people a feel for what it is without going into the details? Ben Aveling 19:05, 11 April 2006 (UTC)

Given that the section was created by User:Unofficialmills, I think we can safely remove most of it as violating Wikipedia:Autobiography. Deserved of a sentence at most. Robdurbar 21:40, 11 April 2006 (UTC)

This is why I listen to Radio 2 now, at the tender age of 23. pomegranate 10:18, 17 April 2006 (UTC)


[edit] Eh?

In reference to the notice at the top of this talk page:

"Although the subject of this article, Scott Mills, is not known to have directly edited Wikipedia himself, he encouraged BBC Radio 1 listeners on January 18, 2006 to edit and vandalise this article. This should be taken into consideration when new information is added."

What part of it should be taken into consideration, and what should be considered about it?

Should I consider refraining from adding information out of contempt for Scott Mills because he had a moment of mischief? Or should I consider adding information about him encouraging his listeners to edit the page?

What, exactly is meant by this notice? IanUK 15:37, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

It means that these dates mark a time when the floodgates of vandalism were opened - information added around or after these dates should be carefully scrutinized Stu Hacking talk 15:43, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

Should it mentioned that scott is openly gay?

Have a read again, it is mentioned -Coolmark18 20:17, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Copyrighted material?

It seems some of the information is blatant copy and paste from the biography on www.unofficialmills.co.uk - might need to change that before they notice —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 172.142.234.36 (talk) 18:01, 27 January 2007 (UTC).

I based the information I added from that page but I edited it to speak in my own way. I would not say it is copyright. Wrcmills 21:22, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] vandalism

whoever keeps vandalising this page needs to get a life and stop bullying someone through a website. Get a life and stop being so jealous you freaks. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 90.194.250.200 (talk • contribs).

So a Wikipedia article gets vandalized... big deal. It happens constantly, and people constantly fix vandalism. Such is the nature of an open documentation project like wikipedia. When a person (whose target audience is people with plenty of free time) openly invites them to vandalise his article: it happens. Be part of the force for good and revert vandalism yourself; after all, wikipedia is the free encyclopedia. Stu Hacking talk 15:43, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Homosexuality

I was going to remove it as it's not really important... what do you think? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Bladeofgrass (talk • contribs) 04:04, 15 February 2007 (UTC). I'm going to say it's not notable enough Bladeofgrass 08:28, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

Could Scott's friendship/enmity with Jo Whiley and its history get a mention?

  • Do you have a source? Bladeofgrass 00:37, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

his myspace page puts doubt on the whole sexuality matter " Who I'd like to meet: EVERYONE! I'm holding out my hand for you to put it there brother (or sister!) ha ha! But mostly nice people. Apparently I'm gay?!" what do you think? --84.65.1.106 21:07, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

That is called irony. See the sources such as the Guardian in the article if in doubt. Owain.davies 06:24, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

Scott Mills is gay? --Roachie 14:19, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

If you look at the sentence in the article which says he is, there's a superscript number after it. If you click on it, it'll take you to the end of the article where a list of sources exist, including a link to The Guardian article where he came out. - Fordan (talk) 14:43, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Why???

Hi, I added somthing to scotts page about being the voice of homebase fm, I cant belive it was removed..Im sorry i didnt have a citation as a link, But apart from knowing this is true, its been said on his own radio show! And in a video podcast!! Im kinda new to wiki, but im upset that sum geek Removed somthing i did for the good of the page , I didnt use txt talk or say somthing bad About scott or vandalise the page...So... why??? does a weblink refrence Matter ?? Im NOT in a good mood with whoever did that...I only wanted to add it for the good of the page...GRR!

It's a pity you feel angry with it, but unfortunately, those are the 'rules'. Wikipedia is only about displaying what is provable, not what is true (might seem a bit strange at first, but it helps keep rubbish off pages - especially ones like Scott's where it is vandalised a lot). If you want to know more, have a look at these pages: WP:V and WP:CITE. I hope this helps, but if you need further guidance, please leave a message on my talk page. If you can find a reference on the internet that would be great, preferably with some dates as to when he did it. Regards Owain.davies 21:05, 31 July 2007 (UTC)
There's a mention of it (without dates, sadly) here, which, as it's on the BBC site, may be a good enough source. Unfortunately his BBC biography doesn't mention it. — Matt Eason (Talk • Contribs) 02:15, 1 August 2007 (UTC)
I'd say that's good enough for the moment, i'll put the info back in. Owain.davies 06:44, 1 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] WikiProject class rating

This article was automatically assessed because at least one article was rated and this bot brought all the other ratings up to at least that level. BetacommandBot 04:16, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Scott Mills notes inaccuracies

On the 3rd September 2007 Scott mills urged listeners of his radio show to modify his wikipedia page which resulted in huge vandalism. Half way through his show he urged readers to visit Unofficial Scott Mills although the reason for this has not become clear yet. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.43.100.146 (talk) 15:41, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

It seems that on air Scott Mills (subject) noted that the current page was vandalised ([1]), and how Wikipedia is "inaccurate" likening it to a "all-you-can-eat buffet". Due to the vandalism which followed, I have semi-protected the page, and request that any disputes are solved on the talk page. He did not however suggest users vandalise the site, dispute what the past comment indicates. Ian¹³/t 15:45, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
And the vandalism is back after the block has expired. I keep flip-flopping on whether it should be protected again. 95% of the anon edits are vandalism, but 5% are useful, and keeping a page editable after it gets public attention is useful, for the same reason the featured article on the main page is usually left unprotected: calling yourself the encyclopedia anyone can edit and having the first article people try to edit be uneditable gives a bad impression. If someone else disagrees (especially since I doubt this article has the same number of eyes watching it as the FA on the main page does), feel free to take it to WP:RPP, or re-add a semi-protect if you're an admin. - Fordan (talk) 14:55, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

Wheyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy, Scott you rule, your amazing you should be editor of this article, seeing as its about you!!!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.103.64.97 (talk) 16:49, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

And I broke down and listed it at WP:RPP after a decent amount of vandalism and not a lot of corrective action happening. - Fordan (talk) 17:39, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Vandalism to this page.

It seems that this page gets vandalised daily when Scott broadcasts. He will usually say something funny and then people have to put it on this article. Would it not be worth getting this page semi protected? --TwentiethApril1986 (talk) 16:34, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

I requested this page to be semi protected and it has now been protected. Hopefully the daily vandalism should calm down. --TwentiethApril1986 (talk) 16:59, 11 June 2008 (UTC)