Talk:Scott Hahn

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[edit] Catholic theologian

I'm wondering to what extent Scott Hahn can be termed a "Catholic theologian", since he has no ecclesiastical degree (e.g., S.T.D.) in this area. The article on Hans Kung makes it clear that Kung is no longer a Catholic theologian, yet the credentials that were stripped from Kung are credentials that Hahn has never obtained. -- Cat Whisperer 03:57, 17 December 2006 (UTC)

Cat Whisperer, what do you mean by credentials, the so-called venia legendi (issued by the church) or something academic? --Túrelio 07:09, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

I mean an S.T.D. or any other ecclesiastical degree that is described in Sapientia Christiana. -- Cat Whisperer 17:51, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

He is a Roman Catholic who writes books presenting theological arguments for Roman Catholic Christianity specifically. Does that not make him a Catholic theologian? Augustine and Aquinas didn't have a Doctorate of Sacred Theology either... - AG, Stockport, UK.

Augustine and Aquinas are Doctors of the Church; I hardly think Hahn compares to either one of them. And given that the Catholic Church goes to the trouble of supervising the accreditation of certain degrees as a means of assuring the public-at-large that Catholic theologians with those degrees accurately represent the teachings of the Catholic Church, I think it is important to clarify that Scott Hahn is in the same category as Hans Kung and any random person on the Internet with regard to this official certification. Speaking in analogy, Hahn doesn't have a driver's license, while Kung had a driver's license but it was revoked. Neither one belongs in the category of licensed drivers. -- Cat Whisperer 18:34, 28 January 2007 (UTC)

My opinion: he is Catholic, he is a theologian, he is a Catholic theologian. I think that the phrase "Catholic theologian" means to most people someone who is Catholic and a theologian. It is worth noting that he has no official degree from a catholic source that demonstrates his Catholic theologian-ness, but Franciscan University thought him enugh of a Catholic theologian to include him in their teology department. Catgirl667 3/12/2007

I just want to point out that this reasoning would make Hans Kung a Catholic theologian as well, a conclusion that many people (including myself) are not comfortable with. The first sentence of the present article already makes clear that Hahn is a Catholic and a theologian. I don't see the benefit of using the term "Catholic theologian" to convey this information, as it will just confuse those readers for whom the term has the specialized meaning of being Vatican-accredited. -- Cat Whisperer 00:23, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

There really is no Vatican accredidation per se. A degree from a pontifical university is an ecclesiastical degree but it is the issuing of the Mandatum that confers upon the individual scholar certain credentials to teach "Catholic Theology" at a Catholic university. (Marquette is a Catholic University and that is where he received more or less, the Catholic credentials as a scholar.) The pontifical degrees are preferred for teaching in a catholic seminary but even that is not rigidly held as law. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.240.23.72 (talk • contribs)

Are you saying that it was Hans Kung's mandatum that was revoked by the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith? -- Cat Whisperer 03:07, 1 May 2007 (UTC)
From a recent addition to the Hans Kung article, it appears the proper name for these theological credentials is missio canonica. -- Cat Whisperer 23:38, 24 May 2007 (UTC)

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